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gbk
11-01-2003, 07:28 PM
Ok. Out with it. Who uses CogPad? Dont be shy...

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Edward
11-02-2003, 09:24 AM
No, sorry, http://forums.massassi.net/html/redface.gif (http://12.220.251.111/gif/redface.gif) I don't use it (http://12.220.251.111/favicon.ico)...

/Edward
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ZOOIkes
11-02-2003, 10:36 AM
I'm a notepad junky.

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gbk
11-02-2003, 11:31 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Edward:
No, sorry, http://forums.massassi.net/html/redface.gif (http://12.220.251.111/gif/redface.gif) I don't use it (http://12.220.251.111/favicon.ico)...

/Edward
GBK (http://12.220.251.111/)</font>

Uhh . . . o k a y . . .

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Emon
11-02-2003, 12:01 PM
Does CogPad do syntax highlighting?

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gbk
11-02-2003, 09:17 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Emon:
Does CogPad do syntax highlighting?

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No, I never got around to that. Its a pain in the *** in VB.

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Emon
11-02-2003, 09:31 PM
So what's the point of using it?

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gbk
11-02-2003, 09:32 PM
Because its got a catchy name?

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Emon
11-02-2003, 09:38 PM
I should use a VB app because of a catchy name? Which you just stole, anyway.

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[This message has been edited by Emon (edited November 02, 2003).]
Freelancer
11-02-2003, 11:06 PM
Hey, it looks pretty cool. Neat features. Almost makes me want to take up cogging. Maybe not.

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gbk
11-03-2003, 08:03 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Emon:
...Which you just stole, anyway.
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WTF? The name is original, just try doing a Google (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=cogpad&btnG=Google+Search) search for it.

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Emon
11-03-2003, 02:30 PM
*Pad isn't. EditPad, HTMLPad, ThisPad, ThatPad.

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gbk
11-03-2003, 02:59 PM
Wait, wait, wait, hold it. Lemme get this straight. Your flaming me because I used a common naming theme? You insulting the program because I decided to give it a name that sounded like a bloody text editor? Its not a crime to use *pad in a name, nor should anyone be insulted for doing so.

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lucky_jackpot
11-03-2003, 03:46 PM
Oh geez - you've gotta love how "interesting" this place gets - never a dull moment ... or is there ... maybe that's why we're all here as opposed to living in the real-world...

Anyways, I've got to say from the screenies I've seen of the program, it doesn't look awe-inspiring. That said, I appreiciate the fact that most of microsoft's Windows products don't look visually stunning, but they do the job and they have more than enough facilities to accomodate for your average user. Essentially, I was more impressed with the descriptions of what the program could do, although I'll wait until I get to work to download the program before bringing it back home to test.

That said, "the selector" (or however it's spelt in "1337 speak" - I always had something more ... "meaningful" to do to occupy my time than learn that particular foreign language http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif ) does sound impressive.

At the end of the day though - as long as you have the verbs and flags that are documented in the DataMaster, then.... well anyways - I'll download and test, before I pass any further critical comments, but - ahead of time - nice job GBK http://forums.massassi.net/html/cool.gif - The longer we can maintain interest in the JK editing community, the better, so anything that makes the editor's life easier is fine by me http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif

Just my tuppence worth...

-Jackpot

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Hellcat
11-03-2003, 03:53 PM
I use it when creating arrays and stuff http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif

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Emon
11-03-2003, 04:59 PM
I insulted and flamed you? Thanks for telling me, because I had no idea!

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gbk
11-03-2003, 07:52 PM
Yeah, flaming. Without provocation. If you dont have anything even remotely positive to say, just stay the hell out of my thread.



<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Hellcat:
I use it when creating arrays and stuff http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif</font>

Yeah, arrays are one of its strong points. http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif

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Lord Kaje
11-16-2003, 09:04 PM
CogPad...? WTHeck is that...?

I'm awful new 'round here -- gotta find it...!

_K_
lucky_jackpot
11-17-2003, 01:16 AM
Better late than never I guess.... http://forums.massassi.net/html/rolleyes.gif
Oh well... http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif

-Jackpot

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EH_AceCSF
11-17-2003, 05:31 AM
na.. i dont use it. If it will got command hilighting, then i can. Without.. Notepad easier..

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gbk
11-17-2003, 08:22 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Lord Kaje:
...gotta find it...!
</font>

Click on the link in my sig that says "Future".

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[SF]pjb
11-17-2003, 03:15 PM
i use it, but.. at the same time i use notepad AND CogWriter...

i find that cogwriter is better for the newbie. as its lie writer and other features are usefull...

cogpad's main ability is it can call at will a full parsec (so mutch ownage!) and that it can check if your statmets are correct (so if you cant rember wheater its JKlocalplayer or JKgetlocalplayer or JKgetlocalplayerthing.. it will tell you if you got it right..

the one this that ******* *****'s me off is that my faviorite high speed key combos (that own) is Ctrl+X is used for the above mentioed syntax checking.

and useing key combos insted of clicking meus wiht the mouse if you ask me is the sighn of a pro as you dont spend ttime with dumb slow menues.. and thats why i can type a door cog in thirty secods http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif.

but then sometimes i just go back to writeing cogs in notepad... i dunno why when i can so easaly just use a block of stone and a chisle.. LOL

so realy i use all three http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif

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Lord Kaje
11-17-2003, 05:07 PM
quote:
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Click on the link in my sig that says "Future".


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Thanx GBK....!!!

_K_
Lord_Grismath
11-17-2003, 05:54 PM
I've used it in the past, but EditPlus has my brain captive, sorry.

Regardless, it is definitely an admirable feat of code, for which I commend you.

[This message has been edited by Lord_Grismath (edited November 17, 2003).]
gbk
11-17-2003, 06:16 PM
HR has the source, and is working on syntax highlighting... http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif


Uhh, pjb, were you insulting the key combos, or complimenting them? http://forums.massassi.net/html/confused.gif

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Emon
11-17-2003, 06:41 PM
CTRL-X is supposed to be cut...

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gbk
11-17-2003, 11:16 PM
Cut is useless. Verify is much better.

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Lord_Grismath
11-18-2003, 03:49 AM
Stop quibbling and solve my quandry!
Kievan Mereel
11-18-2003, 09:05 AM
I use CogWriter.

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Emon
11-18-2003, 01:02 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by GBK:
Cut is useless. Verify is much better.</font>

What's verify? I'm talking about the regular shortcut to cut text. I... can't see why that's useless, or why you should be forcing everyone who uses your software to think the way you do. I mean, you generally want to target general audience, not yourself. If you're trying to help other people, which you apparently are.


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gbk
11-18-2003, 05:40 PM
Emon, STFU. If you dont like CogPad, fine, just dont troll in my thread.

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Emon
11-18-2003, 08:06 PM
I'm not trolling, I'm trying to give you advice on targetting the genereal audience, which you seem to be refusing.

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gbk
11-18-2003, 10:13 PM
Im not targetting a general audience, Im targetting coggers. Ive never, ever, not a sinlge time in my entire life, used the cut command. Never. So, naturally, when Im laying out my shortcuts, cut isnt high on my priorities.

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dr0id
11-19-2003, 05:43 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by GBK:
Im not targetting a general audience, Im targetting coggers. Ive never, ever, not a sinlge time in my entire life, used the cut command. Never. So, naturally, when Im laying out my shortcuts, cut isnt high on my priorities.

</font>As soon as you "put out" your program itīs not for you personal use only and you should really try to make it as user friendly you can.

You donīt want to mess with de facto standards like the shortcuts for Cut/Copy/Paste, you will only piss off the users that actully use Cut, which would be most of them if I would guess.

I, for example, wouldenīt touch a "text editor type"-program that donīt have Ctrl+X bound to the Cut command since I use it quite extensivly when I write code.

My 2 SEK.



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gbk
11-19-2003, 08:38 AM
Fine, dr0id, you want cut? Download the source and rebind the key.

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dr0id
11-19-2003, 08:53 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by GBK:
Fine, dr0id, you want cut? Download the source and rebind the key.

</font>I would not be able to, I donīt know any VB and I havenīt written a COG in years so I donīt really need it in CogPad. It was just an advice, I hope you didenīt take it the wrong way.


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gbk
11-19-2003, 10:58 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by dr0id:
...I hope you didenīt take it the wrong way.
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Well, aparently I did. All I see is insults regarding a bleeding hotkey. Fine, Ill release a version that doesnt include Verify, and has cut instead. Will that shut you up?

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Emon
11-19-2003, 05:08 PM
Shut us up? We're trying to help. Sorry if you can't handle it.

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Hellcat
11-19-2003, 05:32 PM
Where do we get the source?

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dr0id
11-20-2003, 02:09 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by GBK:
Well, aparently I did. All I see is insults regarding a bleeding hotkey.
</font>Insults? Your definition of an insult seems to differ alot from mine.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Fine, Ill release a version that doesnt include Verify, and has cut instead.</font>Would it really be that hard to add Cut and assign another shortcut to Verify instead?
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Will that shut you up?</font>Was that really necessary?


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[This message has been edited by dr0id (edited November 20, 2003).]
CaveDemon
11-20-2003, 01:42 PM
I don't use CogPad, i fight the future (http://12.220.251.111/ol/cogpad/cogpad.html).

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[SF]pjb
11-24-2003, 03:58 AM
wow, i sparked off i fight.. -points at driod and says "hello".

as i know some VB i am gonna TRY and messabout with the code. but on this one your gonna have to acsept that Ctrl+X as Cut is VERY widely used, often your will discover that having a if(pl==getplayernum())
wot work before youve assighned the palyer (comthig you acsidentaly did as a after thought)
and so you need to take out nearly one hundred lines of nice wepon blasthing fun, and move them, (not copy them move them) to another part of the cog.

we aint instulting you. cogpad is in my opinion THE BEST cog editor there is. the fact it misses syntax highlighting is barely evan noticeable to someone who works in notepad!

its ONLY let down is the fact Ctrl+X is not cut.

so dont take it as we are insulting you. take it more as construtive criasisum.. (somthing PJB hardly ever gets but still gives)

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Another post......
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-the PJB jedi rule book-
rule one, "never trust a bartender with bad grammar"-kyle katarn in JO

Rule Two, "Gravity is a crule misstress" -kyle katarn in MotS, and the alternatior MK I in AJTD

rule three, "asprines good, but it hasent got the kick of morphine. and its not gonna stop the hurting in my arm, the ones thats on the otherside of the room i mean" -the alternatior
gbk
11-24-2003, 09:17 AM
Here (http://12.220.251.111/src/CogPad2.7z) is the source.


READ: I am not a programmer. My code exemplifies this. It is ugly, sloppy, but it works. Dont load it up expecting to find everything commented and pristine; there aint a single bloody comment. It was hard to write, it should be hard to understand, and even harder ot modify.


Hack it, chop it, spit on it, I dont care. Just dont change one line and call it yours. Infact, if you do release a modified version, call it a 'distribution' of CogPad or something...

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