How do I use it? (ain't much said in JKspecs) Would it make player specific messages like sighted and touched work with actors?

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-Hell Raiser
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As long as you defined them in the symbols section, or used 'Capturething()' on them, those commands should work.

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Well, I'm trying to get touched to work with actors so my projectile/actor hybrid will explode when it hits a wall. I tried CatureThing() just now and it didn't work.

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Ive never had a problem with it. Although I might be misunderstanding what you need. I would try something like this:






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I know you have to mask stuff like surfaces if you want damaged:, etc. to work on them.. you couldn't use CaptureThing() for that, though.. right?

Nope. Capturething() only works on things.. (Duh..)

Yes, you apply Masks so surfaces send Damaged: messages, but I am unaware of a need to do anything similar for things.


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I did exactly that GBK with some print statements, and it only printed out when it hit me, or another pojectile/actor hybrid.

[edit]Just saw the entered: message in your code, gonna try that next[/edit]

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[This message has been re-edited by Hell Raiser (re-edited November 28, 2001).]

[This message has been edited by Hell Raiser (edited November 28, 2001).]

Heres a thought. Wouldnt Impact damage work? Run it off the Damaged: message? As in, when the actor/projectile hits a surface/thing, it sends out a Damaged message.

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I haven't used masks, but you're trying the make a cog recieve messages from your actor/proj missiles, right?

Why don't you associate the cog to the missile though the missile's template? Just put cog=yourcog.cog in the missile's template line, and your cog will recieve the messages of all things which use that template.

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[This message has been edited by SaberMaster (edited November 28, 2001).]

I already have the template linked to a cog. When I tried the entered: message, it did squat. Even with just a print statement and no ifs, it didn't print. If I could find out why it won't work, then I'd have it made in the shade. Here's what I've got:



It prints out "BWA!" when it's fired, which is good, cuz I know I haven't fudged anything. It prints out "TestProj touched a thing!" when it hits another projectile/actor hybrid and me. But it fails to print "Bwa!2" and "TestProj touched a wall" doesn't even matter untill I can get it to print "Bwa!2"....

Did I do something wrong? I'm not really keen on sector/surface type cogging, stuff you need in levels.

[edit]Well color me 65535 shades of idiot, I forgot the [/code] tag, lol[/edit]

[This message has been edited by Hell Raiser (edited November 28, 2001).]

I guess using touched message doesn't need a thing to work on a projectile, as I remember from writing the giving effects on proj tutorial.

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No, sorry that't not right. It works because the thing is registered in the static.jkl.

But touching wall also gets called by "touched" message, not "entered".

Do both "mask" and "capture" so it should work.

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Touched: works exactly the way I want it to. It's entered: that's givin me probs. =\

[edit]ok, how do I use mask?[/edit] (your second post showed up after I posted)

[This message has been edited by Hell Raiser (edited November 28, 2001).]

Entered: isnt going to work in this case.


The only way an object would send that out is if something stood on it...

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Using mask is shown in darkjedi cogs.

thing darkjedi mask=0xfff


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You're about 15 mins too late Hideki, I found it out, buuuuut, I'm not sure of the flags to put on it. I've got this:

thing TestProj Mask=0x400 local

but touched: still doesn't get called if it hits a surface, niether does entered:

Oh, BTW, CaptureThing(); doesn't need to be used for touched: like I previously thought. The JKspecs were decieving. "Sent by a surface or thing when player collides with it."

Nobody knows what flag is for what messages. So I suggest you go with 0xfff which should capture all messages.

jkspec was written like 3 years ago? Man give it a break! It's the bible of jk editing.

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I tried 0xfff and entered: won't work, and touched: only sends messages for things touched.

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Right, doh!

But still, shouldn't touched: work? =\

About that cog, HR:

1) You don't need to capture the thing. Because the cog is associated with the actor-proj in it's template, it will already receive the actor-proj's messages.

2) The entered message is for sectors and surfaces. Why would it work with an actor?

To find if your actor-proj hit a wall, try attaching a projectile to your actor-proj. The attached projectile will explode when it hits a wall and you can use the proj's removed message to tell your actor-proj's cog the attached proj has been destroyed.

That system is not perfect, but it's the best way I know of.

Hideki:

He shouldn't need to use mask or capturething() because the cog is already recieving the actor-proj's messages.

GBK:

I think that the touched message is called in a surface's, player's, actor's, and maybe proj's cog when an actor or player touches it.

And by "send that out" do you mean that the object would send the message to the sourceref as well as itself? AFAIK, cogs do not receive messages from objects not associated with them.

[This message has been edited by SaberMaster (edited November 29, 2001).]

Your right, cogs wont recieve massages from noncaptured things. Either from definition in the symbols section, or 'Capturething()' in the code.


But a thing will send the 'Entered' message, if it it flagged as 'Can be stood on', and you stand on it. Go ahead, try it...

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