Ok, I just copied and pasted ALL the cog verbs from JKspec and merged them with mine.

I'm right now asking for the permission to use those definitions from code-alliance and once I get a reply, I'll post them right away commentable!

So, the list has the ENTIRE cog verb of JK engine now...

Let's see...the list has 449 entries. I may have to categorize a little bit...the page is now bloated into 120KB!

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[This message has been edited by Hideki (edited January 24, 2002).]

Ewww change your thread title .... lol

I can't.

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Very cool. This will be very handy. Thanks heaps Hideki!

Good work, Hideki. Could you explain how your commenting system works?




Uhmm, you're still missing about 20 verbs.

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> Good work, Hideki. Could you explain how your commenting system works?

Simple. The list has each own page where you can post your comments so it will be shared with other people.

>Uhmm, you're still missing about 20 verbs.

Yeah, maybe I am. I took away the unknown verbs out of the entire list excluding the jkspec from the engine a while ago, so those may be missed. I'll add them.

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So you created a new html page for every verb?

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About your reference, Hideki. I looked through it recently and noticed a lot of mistakes. Take GetSurfaceAdjoin() for example. You said:



But that is all wrong. GetSurfaceAdjoin() returns the other surface used in an adjoin (a sector adjoin uses two surfaces). And it does not crash.

It is good that you're making the Specs commentable, but IMHO, your time would be better spent by reviewing your reference.

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> So you created a new html page for every verb?

Actually I use CGI, so I didn't actually create tons of html pages, but CGI generates pages for every verbs. It's quite automated. You add comments on a verb and CGI picks it up and prints it on the individual pages.

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>About your reference, Hideki. I looked through it recently and noticed a lot of mistakes.

It would be nice if you can mail me or post on the forum, or just plain use the comment system and tell me about what you found

> Take GetSurfaceAdjoin() for example. You said:

>But that is all wrong. GetSurfaceAdjoin() returns the other surface used in an adjoin (a sector adjoin uses two surfaces). And it does not crash.

Sorry about that, I rather have not edited levels alot during my editing span and was not so bright about level structures and cog usages, but then again, it took me quite a bit to make that list.

> It is good that you're making the Specs commentable, but IMHO, your time would be better spent by reviewing your reference.

I don't think I can review the whole stuff now...since

I already started to forget about JK editing.
Just too many.
No time.

So, it would be very appericiating, if you guys can tell me what's wrong with it.

If I just tell a little more, I don't need this verb list at all myself...but still it's my hobby to create web pages with nice features

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Just added the missing verbs from the engine.
The entries have gone up to 455!

Surprisingly the missing verbs includes
GetLocalPlayerThing() - duh, how can we miss the most basic one
SelectWeapon - duh, again
SetArmedMode - man, this is seen in every weapon cogs

Since I just checked the JK.EXE and picked the verbs from there and added the missing ones, I don't think there can be any other verbs, unless I was blind when I did it...

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Ok. I was wondering if you had an alternative to creating a page for every verb. I had to do that because I only know HTML, no CGI or Java.



I could, but that would defeat the purpose of my own reference. But when my reference is released, you can use those descriptions in your commenting system if you want.

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Is that your "own reference" the new jkspec?

Well...if you don't feel like fixing mine, then you didn't need to start picking on it.

I wish you could just share it for me, I'm doing the whole stuff voluntarily sharing all the stuff as I ever can from what I learnt and what I found spending my spare time for YOU people but you don't.


Well, I don't want. I'd rather start saying, if you want to know all verbs, open up JK.exe if you want...

If you can share that, I don't care when, after you release is no problem at all, but I'd rather not go and pick stuff that you hesitate to give out.

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I didn't mean any offence by that, Hideki.



Who do you think I'm making this reference for? I am spending all my spare time aside from the forums on this project. You spent your spare time helping me, and now I am spending my spare time trying to help others.



I do not hesitate to give out the information I have learned. Else why would I make this reference or help people on the forum? Really, I do not want the descriptions released until I have reviewed them.

It's not that I want to keep my work hidden away somewhere. I'm sorry if I made it seem like that. You have helped me a lot, and I don't want to seem ungrateful. You are in the credits.

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I think they didn't say "no" in that thread, neither do they really care as I think. They don't give me a reply after that as well. So I'll start posting it.

SaberMater, I'll look into your reference when it's released for what's wrong Thanks.
If you can tell me which ones are wrong from what you found, it really helps me a bunch.

Right now, the page is huge as hell. When I get a time, I'll make some sorting and cetegorizing feature, until then, the page is bloated.

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[This message has been edited by Hideki (edited January 26, 2002).]