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If you could add something to COG....
2003-10-03, 11:28 AM #41
Oh yeah, I dunno how I could forget this, but: MESH SMOOTHING. Kind of dumb with jk's lowpoly models, but still.

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2003-10-03, 3:13 PM #42
omg u need a cob varb 2 gener8 level 4 me cuz I r teh lazie lol.

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2003-10-03, 7:46 PM #43
Ooh, sprites that are like planes instead of sprites that are overlaying flat textures.

The 'transfer of player controls' and 'adding your own functions' would be pretty tight.

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2003-10-03, 7:49 PM #44
Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jon`C:

I can't. It's a secret.</font>[/quote]NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Wait... I've got it... Jon'C got a job working for LEC! [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]

Well...

...Maybe not.


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2003-10-04, 2:01 AM #45
I can't tell you that.

It's a secret.

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2003-10-04, 6:14 AM #46
OMG HINT:

The Secret has a compiler, a working file system, a process scheduler and a BASH clone.

OMG THE SECRET.

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2003-10-04, 7:48 AM #47
Your writing a command line OS? [http://forums.massassi.net/html/confused.gif]


Ok, fine, but what the hell does that have to do with JK?

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2003-10-04, 7:57 AM #48
OMQ A JK OS!!!1

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Thrawn42689:
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2003-10-04, 10:02 AM #49
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by GBK:
Your writing a command line OS?</font>


Think again. What he mentioned are things that most modern games have, or something close to.


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2003-10-04, 11:24 AM #50
How long must we wait!?

You're so mean, Jon'C. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/frown.gif]

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2003-10-04, 12:52 PM #51
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Emon:
Think again. What he mentioned are things that most modern games have, or something close to.</font>


Ok, whatever. Your writing a new engine. From scratch, I assume. But why in the world would a game engine need a bloody filesystem?

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2003-10-04, 3:31 PM #52
Now you're thinking too big...

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2003-10-04, 5:36 PM #53
Ummmm... JK uses some kind of console we don't know about...

probably not but now that i have read this thread, i would like to know the secret cause now im interested

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2003-10-05, 12:10 AM #54
It's obvious, somebody is writing an engine to replace JK.exe, much like there was a Dark Forces replacement. (never released) The programs in the JK community show that the levels can be rendered, keyframes played... the only thing they'd need is a cog interpreter (hence this post, they code in their own things as well) and trying to get the physics and flags and properties and whatnot down. (which I'm sure isn't a big deal)

I've always wanted better netcode myself. OMFGZ, LIEK, TEH THANG LIMIT! UP IT TO A QUADJILLIONBILLIONTHOUSANDTWENTYTWO!!!!!!

Ok, yea. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

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2003-10-05, 4:40 AM #55
I think we have a winner!

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2003-10-05, 4:57 AM #56
Ah, a replacement to jk.exe. I want OOP for Cog.

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2003-10-05, 4:57 AM #57
If you ARE writing an engine, make it work over my proxy. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif] j/k, I know that's pretty much impossible...

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2003-10-05, 8:41 AM #58
I thought Cog WAS OO... :P

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2003-10-05, 8:54 AM #59
...you're kidding right?

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2003-10-05, 9:53 AM #60
Yes. Notice the ':P' bit.

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2003-10-05, 10:16 AM #61
I was under the impression that the LEC agreement for terms of use or whatever didn't allow modification of the games exe...or is this an entirely new exe that gets around that?

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2003-10-05, 11:02 AM #62
Maybe LEC finally realized jk's engine sux, and finally decided to let people 'modify' it.

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2003-10-05, 5:51 PM #63
Too bad PHP isn't somehow usable. *sigh* It is a wonderful language (esp in v5 with real OOP), but the actual compiler is just now getting off the ground, and excessively slowly.

Perhaps teh JON`C could implement some other language, and create a cog convertor? :P

Actually, you could probably program a lexical parser to do what j00 need.

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2003-10-05, 5:52 PM #64
Good luck getting everything down though. One of the things I would also recommend: if JED leaves it's lights in the JKL's (I think it might) you could use them for model lighting, as well as real time shadows. And now, good sir, I have passed from reality to dreams.

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2003-10-06, 3:48 AM #65
Good idea, Brad.
2003-10-06, 11:06 AM #66
Bump.

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2003-10-06, 11:25 AM #67
Hump.

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2003-10-06, 12:31 PM #68
Will this mean both concave and convex sectors [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif] lol

True versatility [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif] lol - forget about all these "brushes extravagance" [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif]

-Jackpot

PS: Could be just me, but are we going slighly off-topic? Aren't we now talking about how we could improve the engine, rather than the programming language [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif] [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif]

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2003-10-06, 12:57 PM #69
The sectors are convex for very good reasons. If I were working on something like this, I wouldn't change it.

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2003-10-06, 1:05 PM #70
lucky_jackpot: Sectors are convex because of optimizations in today's engines, concvae sectors produce weird rendering errors.

Surfaces are convex because of the way they are texutred by engines... concave surfaces tend to have texturing and collision errors.

If an engine allowed concave surfaces and sectors, ir would have to have alot of code that would only serve to promote what I believe is something of a "bad habit" anyways. And it would be Über slow.

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2003-10-06, 1:09 PM #71
er... not exactly.

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2003-10-06, 1:46 PM #72
*cough*humour*cough [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif] [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif]

It was just joking as a means of comparison between JK's "sectorially" (wow - new word [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif] ) based engine, and JO/JA's "brush" based editing approach [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif]

-Jackpot

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Are you feeling lucky, cuz if you are, get your hands off me... ;)

"Life is mostly froth and bubble,
But two things stand in stone,
Kindness in another's trouble,
Courage in your own"
("Ye Wearie Wayfarer" - by Adam Lindsay Gordon)
"lucky_jackpot is the smily god..." -gothicX
"Life is mostly froth and bubble, but two things stand in stone,
Kindness in another's trouble, courage in your own" - "Ye Wearie Wayfarer"
|| AI Builder: compatible with both JK & MotS || My website ||
2003-10-06, 2:00 PM #73
JK allows concave sectors, the physics engine does not. It is perfectly fine to make something concave, just make sure you dont make it possible for the player to enter it.

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2003-10-06, 3:15 PM #74
Or other objects.

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2003-10-07, 2:23 AM #75
Oooh, syncronization of player stats/flags/ect ect that isn't usually syncronized would be nice.

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2003-10-07, 8:03 PM #76
Is there any reason that could break anything that works in normal JK?

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2003-10-07, 8:41 PM #77
I don't recall JK's netcode being very intelligent. It syncs stuff regaurdless of whether or not there have been changes, a consequence of P2P architecture, I think, or one of. I'm too tired to put thought into it.

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Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.
2003-10-07, 10:32 PM #78
I'm curious, Jon 'C, where are you in your quest for a new JK engine? I'm assuming you're just gathering data right now, not programming yet. Am I right?

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2003-10-08, 4:48 AM #79
Nope.

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2003-10-08, 6:36 AM #80
*violently convulses from ¹confusipation*


¹Confusion + Anticipation

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