I know one of you 3do guys can help. To keep my sector surface count under 52, I made some underwater 3do crags. Looks fine, they don't disappear or anything. Players can swim through them though. Fixes?

Oh, I should add that I used the parent template _walkstruct in making these.

Interesting... walkstructure should make them solid. Did you make sure their surfaces were all flagged 'unpassable?' As well, you probably want to try the template again, and make sure you delete ALL old 3DOs and templates that you've made of the model. I've actually never experimented with underwater 3DOs...

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As for surface flags, the value I set for all surfaces was '5'. Should I fiddle with adjoin flags, or would that just screw the pooch?

5? I don't have jed with me at the moment, so I'm confused what you're saying. Take a screenshot of the flag chooser, if possible. (I'm online right now, so I hope to solve the issue entirelly)

This is most likely the case. However, in rare cases, I have also seen that when you're editing the 3do and getting ready to export, multiselect your sector(s) that makes up the 3do. Switch to surface mode. The surface that is orange is sometimes passible. I haven't yet been able to explain this. Just select a surface that should never be touched, switch back to sector mode, then export as normal. Then do the above.

Remember, when you delete templates, delete the 3do from the folder (import it into JED, delete in Windows Explorer, then resave in JED), open the master.tpl file for the level in notepad and delete all of the lines for that 3do and click save (if you run into problems, you may need to make sure the extention is being forced by clicking save as.. and saving it as "master.tpl" with quotation marks).

5 = 4 (Impassible) + 1 (Floor)

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Thanks for your kind and timely advice. And call me unorthodox, but I actually leave all the sectors from which I make 3do's off to the side, away from my level map. I find it makes them easier to resave and reload.

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I used to make my 3do's that way too. It's okay for small levels, but for larger levels I prefer to just open a second Jed window.

might wanna check size and movesize

Hey, what would fiddling with the adjoin flags do (e.g. passable for player, passable for AI, render past adjoin, etc.)?

Probably what it says it would do....o_O

In the template for your new 3do, try changing it to collide=1 (sphere) or 3 (face collision) collide=0 means well... figure that one out

"Prodigy" already stated, what I too agree with:

In your Master template file, check your values for SIZE and MOVESIZE.

If you set these values too small, you can walk / swim / pass-thru the 3do in question.

For example:
If you have a wide, tall tree ( 3do ) 4.0 high x 1.0 wide; in the master template file, set those values to be SIZE=4.0 MOVESIZE=2.0 (at least).



Let us know if you fixed it and how.

If none of the above work, it is most likely a pivot and position problem.

Since I haven't touched JED is eons, I suggest you open your 3do up in Joke, and check the pivot and postion values. Change your position values to 0 0 0. Save, import into JED and export. There is probably some other way to do this all in JED but I can't remember it.

In jed, go to Tools|3do Hierarchy and you can mess with pyr and xyz offsets... god knows why you can't mess with pivotxyz values (since the source code for jed is released, someone with delphi experience should add this capability, and perhaps fix the uv mess ups if they know how)