Alright alot of people, and I do mean ALOT of people that i've talked to about level editing, have said that I should start posting forums here and you would help. Well I tried that. You guys obviously don't give a rats *** about new editors that could, presumabily, with a little help turn out some really good stuff. Now then. I won't go into detail seeing as I've already done that on another forum here that died very quickly. This is its address, http://forums.massassi.net/html/Forum2/HTML/006977.html, Now if you can't see it then and only then will i repost what I need help on. PLEASE HELP! Jeeze!!!! I was on the virge of connecting and making a real good level for a beginner. Are all of you afraid that I'll do lots of Oasis Levels? I have some really good ideas but no clue on how to do this stuff. Its been sitting on my HD for 6 months now. I've played with it here and there. Only recently have i decided that I really want to get serious about this. So PLEASE HELP!

Thank you,

For longer messages I would appreacate it if you would e-mail them to me at tsechler@gcsnetcon.com

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"I just want you know that even though you tried to terminate me, revenge is not something we promote on my planet. But wer aren't on my planet are we." -- Buzz Lightyear, Toy Story

1. Take a deep breath and relax.
2. We do care about new editors. That's why we're here. I help everyone I can so either you posted when I was out of town on business (which has happened several times lately) or I didn't know the answer.
3. We're all tired of Oasis mods. Very rarely are they any good.
4. I didn't see anyting off of that old post so please post your question again.

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"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
Have Lightsaber Will Travel

ok i'll repost my questions soon (don't have a heck of a lot of time now). but only if I get better responses this time. I just feel like I own the JK community something. i download and play all sorts of patches and levels. Now I just want to contribute.

BTW how do ya guys like my new sig?

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"I just want you know that even though you tried to terminate me, revenge is not something we promote on my planet. But we aren't on my planet are we." -- Buzz Lightyear, Toy Story

[This message has been edited by phoenix_9286 (edited May 08, 2001).]

For your problem in the other post.

The more sectors you copy, the longer it will take to paste.

When you paste with a lot of sectors, and it seems to freeze, leave for awhile and come back, and they should be pasted.

It's not a quick process pasting, so you must be patient.

Demon_Nightmare

The tutorials are all you need. They are extensive and very helpful.

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You underestimate the power of the dark side...

OK thanks for the help with the pasteing. I think I can try again soon. Sad part of this post. MikeC, I still don't really have a lot of time on my hands to repost my questions. Check back this weekend on Sat. around noonish or so (thats EST for all you people who aren't livin in the east). They should be up then (I get to go and help a newbie get set up for JK. Have to get PatchCommander and various patches and levels, as well as activate his 3D card). Thats the latest right now check again this weekend.

Thanks once more for the help guys. Start nice kind voice*/ Just don't abandon me or I'll be forced to release Oasis levels.*\end nice kind voice

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"I just want you know that even though you tried to terminate me, revenge is not something we promote on my planet. But we aren't on my planet are we." -- Buzz Lightyear, Toy Story

Well Phoenix, I was a newbie myself long ago, ('bout a month or so) and yes, they do insult you sometimes. (I'm not going to mention any names, but one name will not be MikeC. ) Don't worry, just read tutorials, post here often, read here often, and you'll be a non-newbie in no time.

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"I am Murray, the all powerful demonic skull, BWAHAHAHAHAHA!"-Murray
Viva la Monkey Island!

Sorry about that DemonicMurray1. I was busy and didn't have the time to insult you properly.

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"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
Have Lightsaber Will Travel

*hehehe*

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"I am Murray, the all powerful demonic skull, BWAHAHAHAHAHA!"-Murray
Viva la Monkey Island!

perhaps you couuld help me also my level for pratcicing force jumping is nearly finished but several of the 3do disappear from veiw when you step on them but they are still there for walking

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also my internal affairs level refuses to load for testing although i filled in the episode and level editers correctly the level name and text refusews to stay there
please help

First of all vorec, you should post that question as a new topic.

I think your problem is the 3dos that are disappearing cross sector boundaries. You need to keep 3dos entirely inside one and only one sector.

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"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
Have Lightsaber Will Travel

okay. I just had a chance to look over my previous forum and have come to the conclusion that most of these questions have, in one form or another, been answered. That does not mean, however, that i will stop bugging you guys. shutup and stop complaining.

Now then. relating back to Demon_Nightmares post one selecting and copying sectors. is there a quick and easy way to get every sector at once, or, do I have to select each sector one by one like i've been doing.

right at this moment I can only think of one more question i have (doesn't mean this forums over). Here it is...Exactly how do you move 3DO's and objects/enemies. I sort of figured out how to put them in my level but i'm not sure on how to move them. For example. I make my elevator shaft and I have done everything except put the elevator in its spot. I insert the elevator in the level and from there I am clueless as to how i need to move it to the shaft......I hope i stated that clearly. My mind is kind of fried right now from school. If not I try again later.

Bye for now.
The Phoenix

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"I just want you know that even though you tried to terminate me, revenge is not something we promote on my planet. But we aren't on my planet are we." -- Buzz Lightyear, Toy Story

To answer one question: to select a bunch of sectors at once, first click on one of the sectors (so it's red in the window) then hold down the ALT key as you draw a box with the mouse (holding down the mouse button) to surround the rest of the sectors. Release the mouse and the ALT key and all the sectors are selected. Check the view from different angles to individually unselect or select sectors that you don't/do want. Once you have all the sectors you want then position your cursor somewhere and push INSERT key to paste a copy of all the sectors.

EDIT: Once you've pasted the new sectors, keep them all selected and see below on how to move them....... But be careful when moving sectors / surfaces / vertices that are attached to things you're not moving since it is VERY easy to introduce errors. Has MikeC says: Use the Consistency Checker!

Other question: to move 3DOs in a level (or sectors, surfaces, vertices) Select the 3DO and hold down the CTRL key as you drag the mouse (mouse button pushed down) and move the 3DO where you want it. Move it in top view (Shift-1) and side views (shift-2, shift-3) until it is where you want it. Make sure the whole 3DO is within a single sector and not overlapping a second sector. See the elevator tutorial for setting the thing frames for the cog.

/me has never played Oasis levels or MP games online

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Sylvicolus JK homepage
If I have ever made any valuable discoveries, it has been owing more to
patient observation than to any other reason. -Isaac Newton

[This message has been edited by Sylvicolus (edited May 11, 2001).]

Hold down the alt key and left mouse button while you drag the cursor over the sectors to select them all.

Select the 3do. Hold down the ctrl key. Click the mouse button and drag it around where you want it. You can also look in the item editor (select the 3do and hit enter to bring it up) and change the X, Y, and Z settings. To rotate the 3do change the roll, pitch and yaw settings in the item editor.

If you haven't already, you should read the tutorials here at Massassi on how to get your elevator to move.

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"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
Have Lightsaber Will Travel

Dang it - he posted while I was typing.

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"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
Have Lightsaber Will Travel

ah it doesn't matter mr. mikec sir. It is better to hear the same thing from two people. Now knowing this I should have waited until now to join my levels. I did it this morning and it took 45 minutes just to select the bloody thing. 'scuse my language. but they are close to being done now.

Ok new question, now that the levels are together, why didn't all of the items, 3DO's, and things go with the level. or do i have to them seprately?

Anyway this is The Phoenix signing off....

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"I just want you know that even though you tried to terminate me, revenge is not something we promote on my planet. But we aren't on my planet are we." -- Buzz Lightyear, Toy Story

You have to copy them seperately.

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"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
Have Lightsaber Will Travel

ok, exactly what do you mean copy them seprately (how do I do it)? And after i do it how do i rejoin them exactly? can I do this with item/3DO's/things i do not have? I say this because I am joining two levels that two different people made, mostly to expiriment. However if I do release this level I am aware that I have to contact them and ask permission.

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"I just want you know that even though you tried to terminate me, revenge is not something we promote on my planet. But we aren't on my planet are we." -- Buzz Lightyear, Toy Story

First, if you're combining a couple of peoples levels my advice is do NOT release it.

If they have custom things you will have to copy over the templates from one to another. If you had the original Jed files this would be pretty simle. If you're extracting from the JKL, it gets quite a bit more complicated (and I'm not sure exactly what you need to copy). You might do better following the templates tutorials here at Massassi to create those templates from scratch. As far as the actual copy and paste, do it just like the sectors but you ahve to be in thing mode.

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"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
Have Lightsaber Will Travel

Ok. Considerinng how hard this is begining to get i might end up droping this idea. I have a couple of fresh ones. One includes trying to make my schools athletic field. It would definately take a lot of work though (i've already made at least a one and a half page list of what i need). I dunno. I keep up the work for now until i hit another snag. well i guess thats it for now. Stay tuned for more questions.

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"I just want you know that even though you tried to terminate me, revenge is not something we promote on my planet. But we aren't on my planet are we." -- Buzz Lightyear, Toy Story