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ForumsJedi Knight and Mysteries of the Sith Editing Forum → Skin Problems
Skin Problems
2001-05-26, 2:02 PM #1
I'm making a skin for SP/MP (I haven't decided) and I'm having problems. The skin is modeled off kya18.3do. It has the following modifications:
A black mat covers most of the body.

A white mat is for the eyes.

I have 00red.mat on the torso.

I have extruded a bit of the head, and molded the extruded bits.

I did some surface cleaving on the torso for the red part.

I can't think of anything else. Anyway, the problem is when I make a mat folder (in Resource) for the black and white mats, a 3do folder for the (renamed to) ky.3do, and thats it. When I run normal JK, if I go into 3rd person, it crashes the game.

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2001-05-26, 3:50 PM #2
Surfaces that have solid colored mats on them have to have a geo of 3 instead of the normal 4 (you can find this setting in the item editor). I'm 99% sure that's your problem.

Also, make sure you set matmaster so it doesn't make those black mats transparent.

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2001-05-26, 4:58 PM #3
Thanks MikeC, but now I have an invisible costum with just a hand and a blaster.

How do I keep them from being transparent? And for some reason in first person mode the sight is lower than normal. How do I fix that?

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[This message has been edited by DemonicMurray1 (edited May 26, 2001).]
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2001-05-26, 7:09 PM #4
In matmaster you will see a box with a T on it. It toggles the transparency on/off.

I don't know why it would affect the first person view.

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2001-05-27, 6:20 AM #5
I have a hunch that the reason that the view is lower is because of one of those "legs goes into floor" problems. If so, how do you fix that?

P.S. I'm still testing the non transparent mats.

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"I am Murray, the all powerful demonic skull, BWAHAHAHAHAHA!"-Murray
Viva la Monkey Island!
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Viva la Monkey Island!
2001-05-27, 7:55 AM #6
If you're legs sink into the floor it's one of 2 problems. Most likely it's #2.
1. The bounding box isn't right.
2. You need to change the "insert offset" setting for the 3do. You can do that by opening up the 3do in a text editor and changing the setting where it says "insert offset".

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2001-05-27, 8:11 AM #7
Ok, I'll try that.

Anyway, with the non transparent mats, it goes weird. When the camera spins due to inactivity, you can see the head, and the arms, and eveything else flying around about meter away from you. But they are black.

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Viva la Monkey Island!
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2001-05-27, 12:51 PM #8
Sounds like when you saved it something might have gotten screwed up in the nodes.

Does it look ok in 3rd person view when you are running and shooting?

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2001-05-27, 3:53 PM #9
Define ok. When running and shooting, I'm lower to the ground, as I mentioned earlier is probably that legs in floor thing, and then I am still invisible, except my hand a blaster are visible. I can still shoot, and play normally, but when I stop and the camera spins, I can see the pieces of my skin floating around behind me.

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Viva la Monkey Island!
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Viva la Monkey Island!
2001-05-27, 6:57 PM #10
Well that's totally different situation. It sounds like the parts aren't invisible, but they are out of place (you can't see them in 3rd person because they are behind the camera). If so it's because when you edited the 3do the nodes got messed up. In other words it's not working properly with the kyle keys.

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2001-05-27, 7:03 PM #11
The only thing that could have changed that is the little horns that I added on the head, but otherwise, it has legs arms, a neck, a butt, a torso, and a head. I was just guessing, but would the +layer thing saying K_head or something like that be right if the head is selected?

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Viva la Monkey Island!
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2001-05-28, 5:29 AM #12
Just because you have those different parts doens't mean the heirarchy hasn't been screwed up.

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2001-05-28, 6:59 AM #13
Sorry, I just never really understood about nodes and heirarchies. What do I have to do?

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2001-05-28, 7:02 AM #14
To be honsest with you, that's an area I'm weak in too. Lets see if somebody that's messed with it more will post.

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