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Windows xp pro vs. home edition

2003-12-06, 7:16 AM #1

jediknightplayer

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What’s the difference? Speed, ram usage...

2003-12-06, 7:19 AM #2

Sol

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Just features. Most users will never notice the difference. Pro is for power users I guess.

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2003-12-06, 7:26 AM #3

GBK

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You answer lies here.

Now, repeat after me, I will search Google before posting such questions...

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2003-12-06, 7:37 AM #4

jediknightplayer

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Well Geese im sorry. I dont really use google so im not use to doing it.

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2003-12-06, 7:40 AM #5

Darth

heh.

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I find it quite funny that many pre-built PC manufacturers like selling PCs with P4 Cs and having XP home on them.

Sad how many people think "Oooh, hyperthreading!" when they're running an OS that has no SMP support...

2003-12-06, 7:48 AM #6

jediknightplayer

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Home edition doesnt support hyper?

2003-12-06, 7:51 AM #7

Darth

heh.

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Hyperthreading is basically just simulating multi-processors, and so for anything to support it, it must have multi-processor support. XP Home does not.

2003-12-06, 7:57 AM #8

GhostOfYoda

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Geeze, GBK. He was just making conversation.

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2003-12-06, 7:59 AM #9

GBK

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Geeze, GOY. I was just making a joke.

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2003-12-06, 8:33 AM #10

GhostOfYoda

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Good, then it is settled.

From now on, jediknightplayer use google and GBK will be more funny.

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2003-12-06, 8:49 AM #11

jediknightplayer

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So i need xp pro just to use my processor at full? Insane! Well since i just got it im not that worried anymore. Thansks guys. I was just wondering if it was worth my time to install it.

2003-12-06, 9:02 AM #12

Mort-Hog

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There are different installs too.
There is a version that can only do 'upgrade' from 98, and not clean install, I think.
In conclusion:

XP Pro clean install > XP Pro upgrade > XP Home clean install > XP Home upgrade

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2003-12-06, 9:04 AM #13

Jipe

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The upgrade versions just require a previous CD. I was able to format and clean win98 off completely before installing the XP Home Upgrade.

2003-12-06, 9:07 AM #14

Darth

heh.

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Yes, upgrade can do a clean install just fine. Not to mention it's much cheaper.

Only difference is at some point during the installation process, it asks for you to insert a previous Windows version CD for it to verify that you've had a previous version before.

If under the Computer entry in the device manager it doesn't say multiprocessor PC, then hyperthreading's not enabled. Not to mention you shouldn't have two CPU usage graphs in the task manager, can't set affinity of processes, etc.

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2003-12-06, 10:12 AM #15

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Quote:

Originally posted by GBK:
You answer lies here.

Now, repeat after me, I will search Google before posting such questions...

Are you feeling ok? This is a topic about operating systems and you haven't mentioned linux or even how bad XP is! [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif]

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2003-12-06, 10:35 AM #16

GBK

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XP sucks, use Linux.

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2003-12-06, 12:19 PM #17

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At first glance, XP Home and XP Pro are identical.

Then, if you ever try to set up network shares, you'll realize that XP Home is a crippled piece of crap that doesn't even have features that were available in WINDOWS 95!
Then you'll accompany me down to Redmond.

2003-12-06, 1:19 PM #18

GBK

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Quote:

Originally posted by Jon`C:
...Then you'll accompany me down to Redmond.

Ill be sure to bring some cocktails of the Molotov variety.

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2003-12-06, 1:31 PM #19

Mort-Hog

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Yes, networking in XP is voodoo magic. In the past two weeks, my other computer has chosen not to be offline for a few days, and then suddenly chooses to be online for a bit every now and again, changing network settings for me, without me even touching anything!

I would laugh, were it not the most frustrating thing ever. I don't even know what it's doing most of the time, and XP doesn't want to tell me, whereas 98 would.

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2003-12-06, 7:47 PM #20

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Quote:

Originally posted by Darth:
I find it quite funny that many pre-built PC manufacturers like selling PCs with P4 Cs and having XP home on them.

Sad how many people think "Oooh, hyperthreading!" when they're running an OS that has no SMP support...

According to this article, http://www.eweek.com/print_article/0,3048,a=30903,00.asp, hyperthreading is supported on XP Home.

quote: "Windows XP Home Edition does in fact support hyperthreading," said Greg Sullivan, lead product manager for Microsoft Windows XP. "While Windows XP Home does not support multiple physical processors, it does support the multiple virtual or logical CPUs enabled by Intel's P4 and hyperthreading."

[This message has been edited by Zy (edited December 06, 2003).]

2003-12-06, 9:36 PM #21

Darth

heh.

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That's really odd. Good for it I suppose, but still odd. Guess I was wrong on that then.

Still greatly inferior to pro though, heh.

2003-12-07, 12:52 PM #22

Raynar

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If you've got the choice - go with XP Pro. I didn't even have to pay for mine [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

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2003-12-07, 1:22 PM #23

jediknightplayer

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Ok this is weird... When i installed pro it said "access denied" every time i tried to go to a shared folder! SON OF A B****

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2003-12-07, 1:29 PM #24

GBK

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Your own shared folder, or someone else's? They dont have their permissions set right.

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2003-12-07, 1:31 PM #25

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Well I had a similar problem and I had to change a registry key on the server.

If you've not sorted it by tommorow i'll tell you which key. I've gotta go to bed now, sorry.

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2003-12-07, 1:36 PM #26

jediknightplayer

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Ok well tell me which key because i have no clue about what to do.

2003-12-07, 1:57 PM #27

Zit

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Quote:

Originally posted by GBK:
XP sucks, use Linux.

I like XP Pro better than Linux its much easier.

2003-12-07, 5:22 PM #28

GBK

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Quote:

Originally posted by Zit:
I like XP Pro better than Linux its much easier.

Of course Linux isnt easier. Thats not the point. The point is, never trust an operating system you dont have the source for. And . . . viva la revolutionane, or some such...

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2003-12-08, 1:48 AM #29

jediknightplayer

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Ok now pro is really making me mad. Now it says i have pirated software when i run windows update. I hate circuit city!

2003-12-08, 5:59 AM #30

Zit

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Quote:

Originally posted by GBK:
Of course Linux isnt easier. Thats not the point. The point is, never trust an operating system you dont have the source for. And . . . viva la revolutionane, or some such...

Wait till 2005 the new Window project will be open source.

2003-12-08, 6:08 AM #31

GBK

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Quote:

Originally posted by Zit:
Wait till 2005 the new Window project will be open source.

On a cold day in hell, sure.

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2003-12-08, 6:21 AM #32

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2003-12-08, 10:25 AM #33

..would like a shrubbery.

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Quote:

Originally posted by jediknightplayer:
Ok well tell me which key because i have no clue about what to do.

If its the same problem I had then you need to change this key on the computer you're trying to get files from:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\LanmanServer\Parameters\

Edit the key IRPstackSize (Or add it if it's not there) and increase it. I suggest increasing it a load to start with to see if that is the problem, then gradually lower it. (Set it to 25 or something to test it).

From: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=106167

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