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DVD copy question
2004-02-08, 6:26 PM #1
I'm using DVD-shrink 5 to copy DVD discs using my new 2.4x DVD burner with the intent of making a backup for my own useage. (before you ask: I already legally bought and own the original DVDs that i'm trying to copy, along with the souls of the people that produced them. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif] )

I've managed to rip the video from the main movie (which pretty much fills up a standard DVD+R disc (what I wouldn't give for a dual-layer DVD+R disk, but they don't exist to the best of my knowledge, or if they do, they are out of my price range.)

Anyway, i have a pretty decent-quality rip of the movie footage, but I've had the following problems:

1. there is no sound in the VOB files that were ripped to my hard drive. How do I get sound? I preview the VOB files in DVD2AVI, but although the ripped footage plays, I hear nothing but silence.

2. When I tried to play the DVD disc (after burning it in Nero 6) the DVd player wouldn't reconize it and my DVD+RW drive wouldn't, either. Apparently, files were burned in RAW format, which is apparently something that can't be read by regular DVD players. ( I probably wasted a DVD+R disc on this one [http://forums.massassi.net/html/mad.gif] . Even though it only cost me a dollar to buy the discs individually, I'm still pissed) How do i keep this problem from happening again by burning a disk in a format that my DVd player can read?

Please advise.

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I want a high-quality duplicate of the movie above all else, even if it means sacrificing all bonus features. I prefer dolby, but i'm willing to settle for stereo. (my tv only has 2 speakers anyway) Thus, compressing the entire DVD by 50% (dual-layer DVDs are somewhere around 8GB, whereas DVD+R discs are only half that size) --resulting in terrible video quality loss-- is not an option that I'm willing to consider. I'd rather lose content over quality.

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2004-02-08, 6:39 PM #2
I've backed up using DVD shrink before (something I'm glad I did after one of our dvds had an "accident" caused by our 9 yr old). Never had any probs....did you make sure the sound was selected too? I'm at work so can't check, but I thought the audio might be under a seperate check box.

When burning with Nero, which burn 'profile' did you select? The DVD-video one?

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">I want a high-quality duplicate of the movie above all else, even if it means sacrificing all bonus features. I prefer dolby, but i'm willing to settle for stereo. (my tv only has 2 speakers anyway) Thus, compressing the entire DVD by 50% (dual-layer DVDs are somewhere around 8GB, whereas DVD+R discs are only half that size) --resulting in terrible video quality loss-- is not an option that I'm willing to consider. I'd rather lose content over quality.</font>


With DVD shrink it is possible to ditch all the audio commentaries, menus, subtitles, etc etc. There is a tutorial at dvdrhelp.com on using DVDshrink btw, I found it very handy.

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2004-02-08, 6:53 PM #3
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jaiph:
I've backed up using DVD shrink before (something I'm glad I did after one of our dvds had an "accident" caused by our 9 yr old). Never had any probs....did you make sure the sound was selected too? I'm at work so can't check, but I thought the audio might be under a seperate check box.

When burning with Nero, which burn 'profile' did you select? The DVD-video one?


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I'm not sure which profile I selected. (didn't really notice at the time) It was my first DVD burn. i've burned countless Cds, I just expected it to work like a data cd would after it finished burning.

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With DVD shrink it is possible to ditch all the audio commentaries, menus, subtitles, etc etc. There is a tutorial at dvdrhelp.com on using DVDshrink btw, I found it very handy.

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I opted for the feature film with compression at 12%. This allowed for dolby and subtitles, but nothing else.

I didn't burn the menus, could that have been the problem? (according to a tutorial i read, it sounded like it would just work if you dumped the VOB files to the VIDEO_TS folder on the disc and played the finished product in your DVD player or drive.


the contents of the folder were:

VTS_01_0.VOB

VTS_02_0.VOB

VTS_03_0.VOB

VTS_04_0.VOB

(1 GB apiece)


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2004-02-08, 7:06 PM #4
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">I'm not sure which profile I selected. (didn't really notice at the time) It was my first DVD burn. i've burned countless Cds, I just expected it to work like a data cd would after it finished burning.</font>


The profiles should be in a drop down box or list somewhere when you are first telling NERO to make a DVD. There are several DVD profiles for data, video or music if I recall. See if you can find "DVD video". It'll layout all the folders in the right order...then it's just a matter of dragging the VOBs into VIDEO_TS if it's just a simple DVD.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">I didn't burn the menus, could that have been the problem?</font>


Doubt it, if all I'm backing up is the main movie I always ditch the menus and it's always worked.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">I opted for the feature film with compression at 12%. This allowed for dolby and subtitles, but nothing else.</font>


Might as well ditch the subtitles and any audio tracks but the main one. I've never looked at reducing the quality of a dolby audio track but I doubt it'd make a huge difference in saving space.

12% compression? That sounds heavily compressed to me....ack stupid work, I'll double-check when I get home [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]


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2004-02-08, 7:12 PM #5
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jaiph:


12% compression? That sounds heavily compressed to me....ack stupid work, I'll double-check when I get home [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

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It's not that bad, you just get some slight horizontal banding on high-detail areas, but other than that it looks nearly as good as the original footage on a monitor (which is probably comparable to HDTV quality), on a low-def TV (which is what I have) it would probably look much worse.

VCd would probably look a whole lot worse no matter what you play it on. It's still better than home-taped VHS.

Original DVD > 12% compression > VCD > VHS.

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[This message has been edited by Pagewizard_YKS (edited February 08, 2004).]
2004-02-08, 7:41 PM #6
You might find some answers here.
http://www.dvdrhelp.com/

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