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Spiritism
2004-02-18, 10:10 AM #1
I wondered if I should post this in the religious discussion forum, but first off, I don't want to go there, and second, this doesn't have to be a religious issue I think!

I have not tried spiritism, but why does everyone who has tell you not to touch it with a ten-foot pole? I mean, you hear stories and everything, but most of those who tell you not to try it seem fine.

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2004-02-18, 10:13 AM #2
hi.

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2004-02-18, 10:19 AM #3
wazaaaaaaaaaaa

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2004-02-18, 10:31 AM #4
I have no idea what you are talking about.

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2004-02-18, 10:41 AM #5
It's as simple as taking 3 seconds to google it. It was the first link that came up: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14221a.htm

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2004-02-18, 10:42 AM #6
I think when someone says that that are into spiritism, it is just another way of them saying they believe the Weggie board actually works.

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2004-02-18, 10:46 AM #7
I'm taking this thread to MEXICO!

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2004-02-18, 10:46 AM #8
this is my post. it is shiny and tastes good with gravy.

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2004-02-18, 10:47 AM #9
uh, I said wazaaa, where are my minions?

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* Seb goes around singing "I'm too sexy for my body"
* Wolfy goes around singing "I'm too sexy for Seb's body"
* Cave_Demon steals Seb's underwear (underwear stolen: 39)
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2004-02-18, 10:58 AM #10
All the way to Mexico.

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2004-02-18, 11:02 AM #11
I personally have never tried it, and do not plan too. But honestly, just because the person seems "fine" is a stupid reason too try it.

I've broken my arm, but another person hasn't. I seem fine now, so why shouldn't the other person try it? Catch my drift? Obviously if the person delved in it and are now telling you not too, they probably had some bad experience that they don't want you too go through as well.

Anyways, that's just my 10 cents.

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2004-02-18, 11:55 AM #12
When I grow up I want to be like Rolf Harris and own my own wobble-board.

I shall then live in a fridge with the magical never-ending carton of beer and inflict massive liver damage upon myself like my grandfather and great-grandfather before me.
2004-02-18, 12:08 PM #13
*Parties like its 1999*

Yeah.. Talking to spirits, seems a bit crazy to me

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2004-02-18, 12:22 PM #14
Long story short, spiritists believe in ghosts.

I don't see why that even warrants a whole religion.
2004-02-18, 1:04 PM #15
Stop derailing the man's thread. It's rude.
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2004-02-18, 1:35 PM #16
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Kieran Horn:
I think when someone says that that are into spiritism, it is just another way of them saying they believe the Weggie board actually works.</font>


Ouija. If you're going to poke fun at what other people believe, at least make sure "Hooked on Fonix" actually worked for you. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]
2004-02-18, 2:08 PM #17
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2004-02-18, 4:04 PM #18
Spiritism has always been a faddy/New Age (especially among fatty New Agers) thing, so it has no credentials. It falls under the practice of necromancy, which most occult practitioner really bothers with, since the risk outweighs benefits, and it's frowned upon by most systems. However, one could argue Christian/Shi'ite veneration of the dead is a form of necromancy, but that's for a different thread.

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2004-02-18, 10:40 PM #19
A ouija board is nothing more than a party trick. Spiritism is not much more than that, either. But if you're into believing in unsubstantiated bull****, then I'd say dive right in. You've got nothing to lose, and even less to gain.

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2004-02-19, 12:01 AM #20
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by SG1_129:
I personally have never tried it, and do not plan too. But honestly, just because the person seems "fine" is a stupid reason too try it.

I've broken my arm, but another person hasn't. I seem fine now, so why shouldn't the other person try it? Catch my drift? Obviously if the person delved in it and are now telling you not too, they probably had some bad experience that they don't want you too go through as well.
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Yeah, I see what you mean. I'm not going to bother trying spiritism though, I don't believe it's anything more than our rich world of psychology playing with the more weak of mind.

I didn't start this thread to find out if I should try spiritism, or painting myself red, or getting into Feng Shui (where pointy objects in your house are bad, the toilet door should be faced in a specific direction, and so on and so forth), I just wanted to know if any of you who had tried spiritism had something mysterious happen (or imagined to happen).

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Freelancer:
It's as simple as taking 3 seconds to google it. It was the first link that came up: </font>


Yeah, thank [insert higher entity here] for Google. Maybe next time when I have something to say, like "I have rats in my house. They are annoying. Do you guys have rats in your houses? Let's hear your worst experiences with pesky rats." I'll just Google it!

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[This message has been edited by Krokodile (edited February 19, 2004).]
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2004-02-19, 1:11 AM #21
Relax Krok. I think he was replying to the post above his. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

As for the topic. I've never felt compelled to believe in anything like that because I've never experienced anything that can't be logically explained or hasn't just been a remarkable coincidence.
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2004-02-19, 3:16 AM #22
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Daeron the Nerfherder:
Relax Krok. I think he was replying to the post above his. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]</font>


After careful evaluation, it looks like you're right!

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2004-02-19, 7:09 AM #23
Spiritism falls more under the definition of "divination," than necromancy. Necromancy is just a type of divination specifically dealing with the calling of the spirits of the dead. Spiritism is broader in an attempt to control spirits in general, and not just those of former-humans.

Divination is an atempt to wield supernatural power of some kind, whether it be with spirits, voodoo, tarot cards, ouiji boards, or whatever else.

Say of it what you will, but the basic idea as to why it is frowned upon is that it's a lie. It is the delusion that one can control something greater than oneself; one that can only be believed when one says he or she is greater than what they hope to control.

All the stories of bad happenings resulting from it are based on this.

Stuff like Ouiji boards are manufactured items, obviously with no intrinsic power, but it is said that it is the mindset that causes bad things; the invitation that one offers when one denies that there are things greater than oneself.

Basically it is believed that by deluding yourself, you deny the truth. You "control" the spirits (which are believed to be greater than yourself) and supposedly get information, without ever realizing that you are the one being controled. Your mind is what has been twisted to believe the lie, and the spirits were never under your power.

I'd say avoid it, but that's up to you.

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