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2004-02-18, 1:58 PM #1
Python > PERL

That is all.

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2004-02-18, 2:03 PM #2
Woah. Get off my internet.

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2004-02-18, 2:04 PM #3
Eeek, don't let GBK see this!

/me runs off to hide . . .

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2004-02-18, 2:51 PM #4
Oh great...

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2004-02-18, 2:55 PM #5
/me hides behind a three foot thick steel door

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2004-02-18, 4:42 PM #6
Um... yeah, sorry for the flamebait. I got a little excited...

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2004-02-18, 4:50 PM #7
*slaps Mystic repeatedly with a trout*

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2004-02-19, 11:03 AM #8
I have a sword-fish here...

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I am a nobody, and nobody is perfect; therefore, I am perfect.

Everyday I beat my own previous record for number of consecutive days I've stayed alive.

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Yahoo! Name : jedibruintone77
I am a nobody, and nobody is perfect; therefore, I am perfect.

Everyday I beat my own previous record for number of consecutive days I've stayed alive.

My Canada includes Beavers.
2004-02-19, 11:07 AM #9
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mystic0:
Perl > > > > > > > > Dog crap > > Prarie Dog discharge > > Pigeon urine > > > Python
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Fixed.

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2004-02-19, 11:08 AM #10
Man the battle stations! We're going to war...
Red alert!
Prepare for battle!
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I tried to hide with Freelancer and happydud, but there wasn't enough room.

[edit]Crap, too late! [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]

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2004-02-19, 12:33 PM #11
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by GBK:
Fixed.</font>

Are you sure that's the correct order? If I remember, it goes more like this:

Perl>Pigeon urine>Prarie Dog discharge>Dog crap>Seeing Dog Crap>Hearing Dog Crap>Smelling Dog Crap>Stepping in Dog Crap>Falling face-first in Dog Crap>Python...

...I may be slightly wrong... But I know that perl is rather effective...

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2004-02-19, 1:33 PM #12
Let me say this straight off the bat: I don't have any experience in either language; this is simple information I have gathered from research. I intend to learn either Python or PERL, and have just started learning the former.

Python:

Pros:
  • Simple
  • Elegant
  • Clean
  • Minimalistic
  • Productive
  • Large Library
  • Integration with other languages
  • Fun!
  • Excellent learning language
  • OOP
  • Cross-platform
  • Easy GUI development
  • Short development cycles
  • Readable
  • Small debug cycle


Cons
  • Slow. As. Hell.
  • Not as old or big as PERL


Uses:
  • Rapid Development
  • Education
  • GUI development
  • Hold together other languages like C, C++, and Java. Because Python has such poor performance, a developer would write and compile the resource intensive modules in C, store data in XML, and use python to implement those modules. Because Python is interpreted, changes can be made easily any time with out re-compiling.
  • Cross platform projects
  • Prototypes
  • Internet Scripting
  • Database manipulation
  • Anything that doesn't require performance


Let me say that this thread is not an attack on PERL in any way... I was just poking fun. I'm trying not defending Python religiously like some sort of mindless zealot, so please correct me if I'm mistaken in any way. And please tell me, specifically, why PERL is so 1337. The impression I have of it now is that it is huge, powerful, a little messy, and features 500 ways to do one thing. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif]

*Runs and hides in bomb shelter

Edit: removed a duplicate.
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2004-02-19, 1:38 PM #13
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Darth Slaw:
Shields up! (shoot; don't have that technology yet! [http://forums.massassi.net/html/mad.gif] )
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If more people used Python, we'd have shields everywhere. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif] [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif]

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2004-02-19, 1:49 PM #14
Python >>>>> Perl
sorry GBK, but anata ga baka de ;P

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2004-02-19, 1:55 PM #15
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mystic0:
...And please tell me, specifically, why PERL is so 1337.</font>


Perl is 1337 because I said it is.


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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">The impression I have of it now is that it is huge, powerful, a little messy, and features 500 ways to do one thing.</font>


Thats one of its benifits. Your not limited to a single way of doing something. Granted, sometimes it can be a bit hard to see what someone is trying to do when your looking at their code, but thats to be expected from *any* language...

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2004-02-19, 2:02 PM #16
Except Python! [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif] [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif]

Your new site is written in PERL, right? It's looking pretty good.

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2004-02-19, 2:07 PM #17
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mystic0:
>..Your new site is written in PERL, right? It's looking pretty good.</font>


Yeah, and thanks. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif]

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2004-02-19, 2:11 PM #18
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Yeah, and thanks. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif]

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Hey, wait a minute... that format looks familier. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]

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2004-02-19, 3:08 PM #19
PHP > Perl & Python

Well. . . for websites at least.

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2004-02-19, 3:57 PM #20
Disagree. I hate the formatting of python - come on, white space designates code blocks? Gimme a break.

Regarding PHP vs. Perl: I have coded both extensively, and while PHP makes web development easier, perl makes it correct. Perl has real references, PHPs are a joke. Perl's syntax is crappy at times, it's harder to learn, harder still to decipher most of the code that's out there, but that's not a fault of the language.

I would still choose PHP, but I like perl better because of the references, CPAN, standardized db library, and the speed (whoever told you PHP was faster than mod_perl was simply foolish). I have the feeling that when I get better at it, I'll like it even more. I have to admit that the whole OOP thing is crap in perl (just the syntax is soooo bad).

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