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novel by a kid...
2004-02-20, 7:24 PM #41
*sidles up to Is*
You mentioned DnD.. hint hint wink wink nudge nudge say no more squire.. [stop by the teapot sometime, we may have an opening for you]

And yes.. read House of Leaves.. then after the first 6months of random surreality and paranoid distrust of physics and geometry, read Neverwhere and fall madly in love with Door like i did [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif]

Then for good measure pick up some Murakami and indulge in a very truly unique and quite delicious mindfrell of surreal urban fantasyish thing, i advise Hard-boiled Wonderland and the End of the World, followed by the Windup Bird Chronicles.. then upon finishing those pick up some Charles deLint for a somewhat different take on a similar genre, there i advise Someplace to be Flying.. and hell any of the others, i can't remmeber titles right off.

After that go find a copy of Foucalt's Pendulum and bask in an immersive epic discordian mindfsck of intellectually delicious pageantry of mind history philosophy and Urban Planning For Gypsies..

And then for sheer ubertechnicryptogeekgasm, bury yourself in Cryptonomicon for a month or so.

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[This message has been edited by Dormouse (edited February 20, 2004).]
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2004-02-20, 10:32 PM #42
I'm an official Terriaddict. I've read the whole series twice and I'm on the mailing list. I like the Sword of Truth because you just can't put them down, he just makes it so you need to find out what happens next to the characters.

It may be a bit annoying that Richard doesn't learn to use his magic any better, but I think it'd be really boring if he could just use magic to get out of every situation; it's nice when his need is so great that his gift completely guides him (like in the Wizard's Keep or at the end of Naked Empire). Besides (as Terry said) it's not about the magic, it's about the characters and the story. Anyone could write a book where some generic wizard casts generic spells.

Pillars of Creation was actually a welcomed break to the series, and it showed in much more detail than before how the order worked and how it failed to work.

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2004-02-21, 12:35 AM #43
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matthew: i dunno about that... i mean, it's a FANTASY book.
if it were a non-fiction or such it'd be a valid question.
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But fantasy is just "life writ large". Does a 15 year old know how a couple married for 60 years feel? Can he discuss the workings of the political system of his world? Create a world that obeys the laws of physics? Write someone pining for their loved one's unexpected violent end?

I'm 19, and I don't think I have enough knowledge to write a convincing fantasy novel, either. I think there's a good reason most great fantasy authors are at least in their 40s before writing their "magnum opus", though I don't think I explained it that well.

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I'm sure that George R. R. Martin is great (I've heard great things), but there are also hundreds of other great fantasy books that include elves, dwarves, and magic. The genre is fantasy after all. I'm planning to read some of his books very soon, and "A Song of Ice and Fire" is on that list.
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I'm sure there are, but aSoIaF is great because it's so different to everything else out there. And, really, why use elves and dwarves? Is it so impossible to think up another new species?
2004-02-21, 12:49 AM #44
I read an article about him once. I think it's pretty cool that she got into the writing industry so young, but they say that "the second book is the hardest"... so I hope he makes it! [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

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2004-02-21, 3:23 AM #45
*corrects GoY on gender*
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matthew: well, i can't say anything that will change your opinion on this matter. just read the book then tell me he doesn't have enough "experience" to write about those things.

(oh and i've traveled around the world quite a bit, i'm 15... so i have MORE experience than the average american in that area... hmmm, maybe this kid has experienced some things at a younger age? or maybe he just understands them? you don't have to have DONE things to understand them. though the understanding doesn't go as far (depending on what it is)
ack, i didn't mean to rant again [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif])

Dormy: well, i'll have to come by and wriggle my rogue-y self into a game (=

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2004-02-22, 6:29 PM #46
[Edit: In response to Dor's brief mention of Neverwhere]

Neverwhere is awesome. I just reread it, and really crave a sequel. Gaiman did kinda leave it open at the end, with Door's mention of uniting the baronies and peoples of London-Below.

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2004-02-22, 6:52 PM #47
Don't read Neverwhere. It eats your soul. (Actually it made me fail a book report, I was to busy reading Neverwhere to read the book for school)
That reminds me, anyone read "Good Omens" yet? It's supposed to be good.
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2004-02-22, 9:59 PM #48
Good Omens is freaking outstanding as well.. Pratchett + Gaimen == <3

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2004-02-23, 11:02 AM #49
Hmm.. good omens.. i've heard of it, but not read it yet, i dont think. it odd, sicen i've only not read about 5 of his. i'll have to check it out. I dont think it will top Night Watch, though. that was awesome.

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