http://www.sacbee.com/content/opinion/national/will/story/8254587p-9185229c.html

Good questions. I don't understand a few of them, but the rest are good.

Too bad Edwards isn't going to get the nomination. I voted for him in the primaries too.

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Checksum: I thought about it, I guess I'm striving for my own personal ideals. I'll just project those ideals onto Jesus and say "I'm trying to be like Jesus" so that I won't have to listen to you banter endlessly about me worshipping a false god or some such.

The Last True Evil: Ironically, that's very Christian of you.

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That's politics for you.

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I'm not an actor. I just play one on TV.

And Kerry is the quintessential politician. I can't for the life of me understand why any sane democrat would vote for someone as dishonest as him.

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"Why aren't I'm using at these pictures?" - Cloud, 4/14/02

Some good questions, some bad ones.

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When bread becomes toast, it can never go back to being bread again.

George F. Will, the pinnacle of the "Liberal" media... Har har har...

As far as central interests, I believe Kerry is using liberal-speak. (He recognizes that he cannot touch the conservatives, just as Bush cannot hope to turn the liberals). I believe he is referring to "Big Business". Bush has already received more than $131,000,000 (US dollars) in campaign contributions, largely from "Big Business", or those who hold a decent amount of power in "Big Business". Bellow is a link to the candidate's campaign data:

http://www.opensecrets.org/presidential/index.asp

I absolutely enjoy the Bush campaign's "Kerry: Unprincipled" Ad. EVERY candidate for any significant office receives considerable sums of money from groups. $640,000 from "Lobbyists" is nothing. In fact, the figure is wrong, unless you're adding it up through his ENTIRE senatorial career. He only received $201,775 from lobbyists for hist 2002 Senate campaign:

http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/indus.asp?CID=N00000245&cycle=2002

...Of course, Lawyers and lobbyists support the Democratic Party more, because the Democratic Party concentrates more on speech rights than the Republicans (just take a look at the USA PATRIOT Act, and you'll understand).

Still, $640,000 is pathetic, considering that he received a total of $13,536,981 in contributions for that campaign ALONE. Of course, most major corporations contribute several hundred thousand dollars apiece... For the 2000 election, Bush received $113,800 from the Enron Corp alone, and it was quite a ways from his top donor (the MBNA Corp. gave him $240,675, and $335,750 for this election, was #1 in 200, but only #4 this time). Of course, Microsoft is also a major contributor, and chose to support Bush with a $160,050 donation, though others in the company gave Dean $42,272.

As for lobbyists, I think George Will is pulling the "straw man" trick, which is claiming Kerry made a claim he didn't, so that Will could hack his argument to pieces. I also think that Will forgot what "Special" means. The Sierra Club is definitely NOT a "Special Interest". It is a General Interest Group, as they seek environmental improvement, which is good for all.

I need to go for the while, but I'll be back to post some more...

[edit]As for Kerry, I think he actually recognises that the campaign really doesn't matter, so he's saying anything to get Bush out of office. More on this later.[/edit]

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Nes digs around in the trash can.
Nes finds a hamburger!
Nes puts the hamburger in his backpack.

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Hahahaha, the Sierra Club. That makes me laugh when ever I haer the name.

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I'm not an actor. I just play one on TV.

I mailed in my absentee ballot today for the cali primary.

I voted for Bush.



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Most people regard me as the dark and immoral side of Massassi. At least I'm getting what I want out of life.

uh, page, there is no Republican primary. It's only Democratic. Been hittin' the bottle hard lately, huh?

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Checksum: I thought about it, I guess I'm striving for my own personal ideals. I'll just project those ideals onto Jesus and say "I'm trying to be like Jesus" so that I won't have to listen to you banter endlessly about me worshipping a false god or some such.

The Last True Evil: Ironically, that's very Christian of you.

If I remember correctly, California is one of the states that holds a presidential primary, even for the party of the incumbent candidate. I may be wrong, but I know some states DO always have primaries for both parties.

Speaking of such, who was up against Bush among the Republican Party?

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Nes digs around in the trash can.
Nes finds a hamburger!
Nes puts the hamburger in his backpack.

nothing to see here

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