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10th planet found?
2004-03-15, 2:18 AM #1
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2004-03-15, 2:27 AM #2
Thats no moon its a space station.

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But it's to big to be a space station!

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2004-03-15, 2:56 AM #4
Since the Death Star II was around 900 kilometers across, this one would be a little over twice that diameter. Still, only 300 kilometers smaller than Pluto, that's pretty close to being considered a planet.

...Unless you argue that Pluto itself isn't a planet. I'm interested in hearing about its orbital inclination and eccentricity.


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2004-03-15, 3:06 AM #5
I don't care what you're interested in hearing, what you're going to hear is that Pluto is a dog.

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2004-03-15, 3:40 AM #6
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by DeTRiTiC-iQ:
I don't care what you're interested in hearing, what you're going to hear is that Pluto is a dog.

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Or the Roman god of the underworld...

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2004-03-15, 4:49 AM #7
Sedma sounds more like a small comet that somehow began orbiting around the sun than an actual planet.

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Initial details indicated Sedna to be made of ice and rock and to be of a smaller size than Pluto, with a diameter of almost 2,000 km.
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sure sounds like a comet to me- some people think that Pluto is even a comet.


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2004-03-15, 5:34 AM #8
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Pagewizard_YKS:
Sedma sounds more like a small comet that somehow began orbiting around the sun than an actual planet.

sure sounds like a comet to me- some people think that Pluto is even a comet.
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There has (and still is) speculation that Pluto and Charon are actually the moons to a planet that once existed between the two. If said planet were to be struck my a great enough force (large astroid), it would explain Pluto and Charon's orbit around a center point betweent them and the huge inclination difference.

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2004-03-15, 5:38 AM #9
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by CaptBewil:
it would explain Pluto and Charon's orbit around a center point betweent them and the huge inclination difference.

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What does that mean in regular english?

(Its early and I havent had my coffee yet)




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2004-03-15, 5:50 AM #10
Big planet circle sun. Big astroid smash into big planet. Go boom! Moons get thrown into misaligned orbit.

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2004-03-15, 5:51 AM #11
They don't orbit the sun in the same plane as the rest of the planets nor is thier orbit circular.

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2004-03-15, 9:38 AM #12
I say we call this one Kedri. Sedna can just shut the heck up.

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2004-03-15, 9:43 AM #13
Kedri? What does that mean?

But, how many things are we gonna' claim as a planet? A few years back we had another comet come in, and was claimed a planet I think. It was called, like, Querto or something?

And my anus isn't 2.9 billion km from the sun.

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2004-03-15, 9:44 AM #14
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Sedma sounds more like a small comet that somehow began orbiting around the sun than an actual planet. </font>


Then so does Pluto, by that logic, considering a considerable amount of its mass is ice (remember that water condenses to the point that planets can be formed with it not too far beyond Mars's orbit). There's simply less iron and silicates at that distance to form rocky planets.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">There has (and still is) speculation that Pluto and Charon are actually the moons to a planet that once existed between the two.</font>


I've never heard about this. Source please? Keep in mind that Pluto could not have been a moon of Neptune's, considering their orbits are completely different.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">They don't orbit the sun in the same plane as the rest of the planets nor is thier orbit circular.</font>


I haven't heard about the orbit inclination of this new body, but yes, it is very eccentric. Pluto/Charon, on the other hand, are close enough to the orbital plane of the other planets to be classified as such. Pluto is also spheroid in shape, unlike the majority of Kuiper Belt objects and other objects in the solar system.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">It was called, like, Querto or something?</font>


Quaoar. And no, it was classified as a KBO, since it's much smaller than Pluto.


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2004-03-15, 9:50 AM #15
Bah! Nine planets is enough!

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2004-03-15, 9:56 AM #16
It's so irrellevant whether or not it's a planet i could care less! Everything that orbits the sun is debree and it's so incosistant comparing our solar system to others there's no reason to think of anything floating around as anything but random clumps of matter [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

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2004-03-15, 10:01 AM #17
So that's where the WoMD are!

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2004-03-15, 10:09 AM #18
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by TwistedSoul:
debree</font>


LOL, no offense, but that spelling just cracked me up. I'll shut up now.

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2004-03-15, 10:12 AM #19
Yeah, whether or not it's a planet really has no relevance. Only hardcore astronomers will get worked up about it. It's a chunk of stuff orbiting the sun. simple as that.

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2004-03-15, 10:12 AM #20
WoMB = Weapons of Mass Destruction?

If so,

LOL!

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2004-03-15, 10:27 AM #21
A planet that is just a ball of ice? Who the heck would want to go there?

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2004-03-15, 10:30 AM #22
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Cosmic Castaway:
WoMB = Weapons of Mass Destruction?
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No, womb = A place where something is generated.

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2004-03-15, 12:16 PM #23
I wonder if there are asteroids orbiting our sun that are of similar size to this new "planet." Will we call them planets, too?

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2004-03-15, 12:21 PM #24
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">I wonder if there are asteroids orbiting our sun that are of similar size to this new "planet." Will we call them planets, too?</font>


They would have been found already. Ceres, for example, has been known for over 200 years.


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2004-03-15, 12:28 PM #25
*insert "Uranus is around 50 times bigger" jokes here *
2004-03-15, 12:28 PM #26
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by THRAWN:
A planet that is just a ball of ice? Who the heck would want to go there?

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How about the galaxy's biggest snow cone? [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]

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2004-03-15, 12:45 PM #27
Wow this is like...2 weeks old :P. But seriously, it sounds interesting, but also sounds like there have been many before its time.

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2004-03-15, 3:53 PM #28
... Sedna was officially announced today.


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2004-03-15, 4:00 PM #29
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Cosmic Castaway:
Kedri? What does that mean?</font>


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2004-03-15, 4:04 PM #30
Isn't that a bit harsh?

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2004-03-15, 4:25 PM #31
Whatever happened to rupert?

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2004-03-15, 4:40 PM #32
Planets are hard core. 10 planets must mean there is an incremental increase in the hard-coreness of the solar system.

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2004-03-15, 4:56 PM #33
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Firefox:
... Sedna was officially announced today.


-Fox
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No it wasn't...maybe the name, but I used this like 2 weeks ago for a current event in History. Unless in the past 2 weeks they've found ANOTHER one of these. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

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2004-03-15, 7:12 PM #34
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Dj Yoshi:
No it wasn't...maybe the name, but I used this like 2 weeks ago for a current event in History. Unless in the past 2 weeks they've found ANOTHER one of these. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

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A current event... in history... weird.

And I concur with the new name, from here on out we call it planet Kedri. All who disagree are wrong.

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2004-03-16, 1:49 AM #35
Yah, don't ask. But I vote for Kedri.

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2004-03-16, 2:08 AM #36
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by TwistedSoul:
It's so irrellevant whether or not it's a planet i could care less!
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No, you COULDN'T care less.

If you say you COULDN'T care less you are saying that that thing is totally at the bottom of your care-o-meter and there is absolutely nothing at all ever, not even the standard deviation of toe-nail length of middle-aged Bulgarian males, that would fall below this thing on your care-o-meter.

If you say you COULD care less, you are saying that there IS something that falls below this thing on your care-o-meter. in fact, there could be an awful lot of things below it. which could suggest that this thing is very very important to you.
which isn't what you were trying to say.
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Anyway.


I realise that all the planets, save for Pluto, orbit the sun in the same plane...but why? I imagine that planets came about because they were bits of rock flying through space that were caught in the Sun's gravity and started orbitting, and collided with other bits of rock to eventually form planets, that makes sense...but why would this all occur in the same plane? Bits of rock would be travelling at all sorts of angles and they should orbit around the diameter of the Sun, but why the same plane? why??
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2004-03-16, 2:18 AM #37
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Cosmic Castaway:
Kedri? What does that mean?
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that tells you something, he's been gone so long that the new ones don't know him.. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/frown.gif]

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2004-03-16, 2:26 AM #38
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mort-Hog:

I realise that all the planets, save for Pluto, orbit the sun in the same plane...but why? I imagine that planets came about because they were bits of rock flying through space that were caught in the Sun's gravity and started orbitting, and collided with other bits of rock to eventually form planets, that makes sense...but why would this all occur in the same plane? Bits of rock would be travelling at all sorts of angles and they should orbit around the diameter of the Sun, but why the same plane? why??
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I'm not sure about collisions on such a grand scale - I think it was more of an accumulation of matter - I'm sure there's folk around here who could give you a better explanation: One way of looking at it is that most gas/debris fields around us are planar - even galaxies - so when they condensed, they became particular, but still in one plane.

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2004-03-16, 3:16 AM #39
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">No it wasn't...maybe the name, but I used this like 2 weeks ago for a current event in History. Unless in the past 2 weeks they've found ANOTHER one of these.</font>


.... Source please?


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2004-03-16, 5:56 AM #40
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mort-Hog:

No, you COULDN'T care less.

If you say you COULDN'T care less you are saying that that thing is totally at the bottom of your care-o-meter and there is absolutely nothing at all ever, not even the standard deviation of toe-nail length of middle-aged Bulgarian males, that would fall below this thing on your care-o-meter.

If you say you COULD care less, you are saying that there IS something that falls below this thing on your care-o-meter. in fact, there could be an awful lot of things below it. which could suggest that this thing is very very important to you.
which isn't what you were trying to say.
If you can't say what you mean, you can never mean what you say!


Anyway.


I realise that all the planets, save for Pluto, orbit the sun in the same plane...but why? I imagine that planets came about because they were bits of rock flying through space that were caught in the Sun's gravity and started orbitting, and collided with other bits of rock to eventually form planets, that makes sense...but why would this all occur in the same plane? Bits of rock would be travelling at all sorts of angles and they should orbit around the diameter of the Sun, but why the same plane? why??
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