I hate filesharing. Every time I attempt to get a file this way I get viciously RAPED in every possible way. I'm currently using bittorrent to download a 1.4GB file. My upload it going at 20 KB/s constantly. My max uplaod capability is 25. Do you know what my download it going at? ZERO. NOTHING. 48 hours ago I started this download. I'm now at 84% with an estimated 25 and a half hours to go. WHAT MORON INVENTED THIS?

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WOOSH.
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It always amazes me how much people will complain about services that they get for free, or are illegal.

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DSettahr's Homepage | Cantina Cloud | Rally NY

I prefer "BuyItYourself v2.1"

I've never had any problems with it, and the customer support is much better than any other file sharing program.

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GhostOfYoda - General doer of stuff.

I love BitTorrent. Best way to get the latest demos. Other stuff too... 0_o

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[="They say music can alter moods and talk to you, but can it load a gun for you and cock it too?" - Eminem=]

Massassian since: March 12, 2001

He never said it was illegal.

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I check my e-mail.

I never said he did say it was illegal.

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And everything under the sun is in tune, but the sun is eclipsed by the moon...
DSettahr's Homepage | Cantina Cloud | Rally NY

Neither did I.

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GhostOfYoda - General doer of stuff.

"I prefer 'BuyItYourself v2.1'" implies that it was pirated...

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I check my e-mail.

Do you have router? firewall?

There are many reasons why your download could be crippled

(you DID check whether there are any seeds? or any full copy floating around even)

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"Music is the universal language and the
dialect we speak in is Hip Hop!" - King Solomon

[This message has been edited by Molgrew (edited March 20, 2004).]

Of course it could just be that you're saturating your upload and therefore unable to request data very fast...

Or just no one is sharing, but I hear a lot of people complaining about slow downloads when it's their fault for letting their upload get saturated.

No, the file is not illegal, I am very much opposed to that kind of thing.

There are plenty of seeds, yes. I don't think my upload is saturated, like I said, my maximum capacity is 25 and my actual upload is hovering between 15 and 20...is that still too much?

I do have a router, what kinds of problems could that cause?

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WOOSH.
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http://www.dessent.net/btfaq/

http://www.dessent.net/btfaq/#ports

[This message has been edited by Molgrew (edited March 20, 2004).]

Ah, right, the port forwarding. I already did that. :/

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WOOSH.
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Well are you on some dedicated connection or are you using something shared like cable where your bandwidth is more likely to fluctuate?

Of course usually if your upload was saturated, you'd still be downloading, just really slow...

So what is it already?

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The Massassi-Map
There is no spoon.

Well, it is going, just very slow. It picked up a few minutes ago quite a bit, higher than it has for the last 2 days, near the 20KB/s mark. Maybe I jsut caught it during a lull or some such wierd happening...still a bit slow, but whatever. I am on cable but I doubt my bandwidth would fluctuate like that.

As to what the file is, that's none of your business. It's a movie that I own on VHS (2 copies of it, actually) but would like to watch on my computer (better speakers). So I guess that's technically illegal, isn't it? The alws ahve been fluctuating so much with all the controversy and stuff that i just stopped paying attention.

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WOOSH.
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Well I would say cap your upload at like 10k or 15k and see if that helps any. I assume the BT client you're using had an upload cap option?

So what if its illegal?

People who download files are patriots, not criminals. America was founded on rebellion, not corporate greed.


Companies are so greedy that I'm sure that some people download all they can out of pure spite.

I mean, look at autocad 2004. They stream a 500 mb demo to your computer because they don't trust you enough to give you a traditional download. You can order a trial cdrom, but you still basically have to PAY to use the demo b/c of shipping charges.


you have to have broadband to use the streamed demo (which was very unstable on my comp, btw), so they are conveniently alienating much of their 56k market audience by that paranoid measure alone.

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[This message has been edited by Pagewizard_YKS (edited March 20, 2004).]

Pagewizard, filesharing illegal files is possibly the most UNamerican thing imaginable. It's quite the OPPOSITE of capitalism. It's COMMUNISM. Plain and simple.



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WOOSH.
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[This message has been edited by BobTheMasher (edited March 20, 2004).]

Why should I take the RIAA's word for it?

They never tell you that they've been ripping off and exploiting their assets (err... artists) for years. This has been debated many times here on these forums, but some people don't see past the tripe that the RIAAS propagaganda machine has been feeding them.


I would receive great (almost orgasmic, hehe) pleasure from seeing the Riaa come crashing down in flames. Any company that sues 12 year old kids receives utterly no pity from me.



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I had a good idea for a perfect new sig, but then I forgot what it was...

I'm not defending the RIAA, I'm just saying that it's illegal and generally plain wrong. Anyway, suing 12 year olds is jsut fine with me, maybe they should have thought twice before they started stealing.

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WOOSH|-----@%

Why is it wrong?




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I had a good idea for a perfect new sig, but then I forgot what it was...

Its wrong because you're getting something which legally isnt yours. Even if the RIAA is ripping off the artists (which I doubt, and even if the artists are getting ripped off they are still making more than I could every hope to make), that in no way gives you any right to rip off the RIAA. And if you really enjoyed music, you would be more than willing to buy it. Maybe the cost of CDs is too high, but that does not make downloading music any more 'legal' or 'morally right.'

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And everything under the sun is in tune, but the sun is eclipsed by the moon...
DSettahr's Homepage | Cantina Cloud | Rally NY

[This message has been edited by DSettahr (edited March 20, 2004).]

Are we really going to have this argument AGAIN? Sometimes I swear reading this forum can be like Friends re-runs. Can't we argue about something new? Dolphins vs sharks, rice vs noodles, sex vs cheese graters, god anything, just something NEW!

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Cantina Cloud | BCF | The Massassian 1 & 2 | Gonkmeg
Corrupting the kiddies since '97

Cheese graters >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> sex

Anyone who says elsewise is a moron, and a bigot, and a few other unkind words.

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http://www.4guys-1dragoon.cjb.net -No porn. We promise*

More importantly, will Rachel stay in the country and get back together with Ross (again?), will Joey ever find true love? Will Monica ever stop being irritating? Will Chandler continue being such a cool guy?

[This message has been edited by DeTRiTiC-iQ (edited March 20, 2004).]

BUT I WANT HALFLIFE FOR FREE NOW!

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Don't be unwise judge me not by my size. You wont believe your eyes watch the xwing rise!

Forget about cheese graters, I have an all-purpose cheese manipulator. Look at it, it's beautiful.

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WOOSH|-----@%

hehe. i got that and Halflife 2 (whenever they finally get it released) for free with my new radeon

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-Outlaw Star
"Some people play tennis. I erode the human soul"
-Tycho, Penny Arcade
"I'm a Cannabal-Vegitarian. I will BBQ an employee if there is no veggie option"
-DX:IW

[This message has been edited by Noble Outlaw (edited March 20, 2004).]

That's something Hitler would say. I hope you don't like sex, 'cause when you are in Hell you won't be getting the virgins.

(please don't take this post seriously)

How dare you counter the almighty RIAA! You shall be viciously prosecuted for downloading 3 songs! We will rape every dollar from all your accounts, your parent's accounts, your friend's account, your cousin on your mother's side twice removed accounts! We need the funds to continue our distribution of our mind controlling audio known as "music."

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<scribbly handwriting barely resembling name>

In Finland, RIAA has no power.

Hah.

In Finland, it isn't even illegal. HAh.

But I hate pirates. HAH.

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<landfish> FastGamerr > Satan

I... I am so hurt. I'm gonna go write some dark gothic poetry with my own blood. I hope you are happy.

Bob: As the good book sayeth "Don't Show Your Cheese Manipulator if you don't want it stolen" (Cheese and Eggs, 3:17) Expect some late night "visitors".




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"The music belongs to the people; it is only the record labels that want people to pay for any of it."
Paraphrased by John Lennon.

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