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2004-03-31, 9:23 AM #1
I was in AP Government and one of our assignments was to take a list of Russian words and translate them to English sounding words. This got me thinking of the different kind of languages I would want to learn.

These are mine:
Spanish (for purely law enforcement purposes)
French (because it seems pretty close to English grammar and sentence structure wise. Also, even though it is a bit of a wussy sounding language, it flows better than the choppiness of English. I could learn Japanese instead, but it would probably be a lot harder)
Russian (this is supposedly and easy language to learn from English, but I don't think so)
German (because even though I'm only half german, I am more germanic than anything else)

What languages are you guys insterested in?

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2004-03-31, 9:28 AM #2
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Kieran Horn:

French (because it seems pretty close to English grammar and sentence structure wise.)
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If you wanna learn french just for that, you're in for a big disapointement.

There's a ton of massassians who claim they can speak french. I've never seen any of them (except goy) who has ever formed a simple coherent sentence without a major syntax, grammar or spelling error.. That should give you an idea of how different it is. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]


As for me, I wanna learn spanish cause I think it's pretty. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]


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2004-03-31, 9:35 AM #3
Well, Japanese then. I actually didn't like Japanese because of the anime crap, but then I saw The Last Samurai and I like it. I like it the most when Katsumoto's brother talks.

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2004-03-31, 9:36 AM #4
Yiddish
Hebrew (be fluent in it, I mean)

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2004-03-31, 9:46 AM #5
I'm happy with the English language, but next year I'll be taking Spanish. It seems pretty easy and quite a few words are already used in English slang talk (ex: adios, pronto).

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2004-03-31, 9:53 AM #6
Russian is easy if you're devoted to learning it. The grammar, conjugating verbs, etc., can be difficult.


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2004-03-31, 10:03 AM #7
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by bobafett765:
I'm happy with the English language, but next year I'll be taking Spanish. It seems pretty easy and quite a few words are already used in English slang talk (ex: adios, pronto).

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the hardest part of spanish is that grammar and sentence structure is very different from english.

Fox: You mean the new letters and different existing letter sounds aren't the hardest? crap.

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2004-03-31, 10:04 AM #8
Pronounciation is usually the easiest part of learning a new language. It just takes some time and practice.

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2004-03-31, 10:33 AM #9
Yeah, French grammar is really nothing like English. It is at first, but then it gets very different as you progress in learning the language.

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2004-03-31, 10:46 AM #10
That, and English being a Germanic language, its structure more closely resembles high German than French.

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2004-03-31, 10:55 AM #11
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Kieran Horn:
the hardest part of spanish is that grammar and sentence structure is very different from english.</font>


I like Spanish, myself, and I found that the sentence structure doesn't deviate that much from English (when spoken and written properly).

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2004-03-31, 10:58 AM #12
What? In spanish a lot of the nouns, verbs, predicates, etc are in a different order than in English.

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2004-03-31, 11:02 AM #13
yea, but if you said it in english like its written in spanish it wouldnt be wrong, just a bit odd sounding.

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2004-03-31, 11:07 AM #14
Wanna speak... fluently...

French..
Spannish..
Arabic..

aaaanddd..

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2004-03-31, 11:09 AM #15
Arabic, Hebrew, Farsi, Urdu. Mainly Arabic, though.
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2004-03-31, 11:28 AM #16
Peut-etre ca veut seulement dire que ceux qui pouvent vraiment parler le francais tellement bien ne doivent pas toujours essayer de le montrer aux autres (Oui, je sais que je n'ai pas mis les accents. C'est trop tard pour commencer a les chercher sur mon clavier finnois [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif] ).

I'd love to learn to write French and German well. Russian or Estonian might be useful too.

I can read French pretty well (It'd be pretty silly if I just stared at the pictures in my Moebius, Bilal and Pratt comicbooks) and can watch films and programs in french without subtitles and still understand more or less everything. I can even converse moderately well. But I'll be damned if I can conjugate verbs beyond the most simple forms or remember which nouns are feminine or masculine.

German I can more or less understand when spoken, and can decipher with some guesswork magazine articles or other texts. I wouldn't start reading any book though. I can understand spoken German on a basic level. As long as the conversations don't go beyond my name, age, the weather, where I'm from, where I'm going, what my favourite films are etc. I can hold my own. I'll be damned though if I can get my Der/Die/Das' right, or write anything or discuss anything that isn't more or less superficial that requires extensive vocabulary.

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2004-03-31, 11:35 AM #17
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Daeron the Nerfherder:
Peut-etre ca veut seulement dire que ceux qui peuvent vraiment parler le francais tellement bien ne doivent pas toujours essayer de le montrer aux autres (Oui, je sais que je n'ai pas mis les accents. C'est trop tard pour commencer a les chercher sur mon clavier finnois [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif] ).</font>


OWNED! [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif] [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif]

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2004-03-31, 11:57 AM #18
Deutsch ist nicht so schwer. Es ist ein bisschen wie Englisch, mit Worten wie 'ihm' und 'ihr' (meinen 'him' und 'her') und andere Dinge. Ich habe Deutsch für nur drei Jahren gelernt, und ich glaube, dass kann ich guter Deutsch sprechen... ich hoffe. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif]
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2004-03-31, 12:48 PM #19
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Flexor:
If you wanna learn french just for that, you're in for a big disapointement.

There's a ton of massassians who claim they can speak french. I've never seen any of them (except goy) who has ever formed a simple coherent sentence without a major syntax, grammar or spelling error.. That should give you an idea of how different it is. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]


As for me, I wanna learn spanish cause I think it's pretty. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]


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Yeah, as one of the.. 3(?) French Canucks here, I can say that I speak your language a lot better than you would ever hope to speak mine. =P

Also, I'm hesitating between three languages, but thankfully, they all have roots in scandinavian areas.

Norwegian, because it's like german, only so much cooler, and smoother, sounds like "rrr" ish than german.

Swedish, well, I want to move to Sweden one day, or Finnish, if I move to Finland.

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2004-03-31, 1:12 PM #20
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Sine Nomen:
Arabic, Hebrew, Farsi, Urdu. Mainly Arabic, though.</font>


What's Farsi and Urdu?

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2004-03-31, 1:20 PM #21
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Kieran Horn:
What's Farsi and Urdu?

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Farsi is Persian (today: Iran)
Urdu is Pakistani, I believe.

I'm pretty good with German, and I'm slowly learning Russian.

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2004-03-31, 1:30 PM #22
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Cougar:
Deutsch ist nicht so schwer. Es ist ein bisschen wie Englisch, mit Worten wie 'ihm' und 'ihr' (meinen 'him' und 'her') und andere Dinge. Ich habe Deutsch für nur drei Jahren gelernt, und ich glaube, dass kann ich guter Deutsch sprechen... ich hoffe. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif]</font>


I am in a high-school german 2 class and i understood most of that. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif]

I love german, and i quite throughly dislike the other languages offered. Russian might be neat, bu they don't teach it...anywhere.

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2004-03-31, 2:06 PM #23
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Cougar:
Deutsch ist nicht so schwer. Es ist ein bisschen wie Englisch, mit Worten wie 'ihm' und 'ihr' (meinen 'him' und 'her') und andere Dinge. Ich habe Deutsch für nur drei Jahren gelernt, und ich glaube, dass kann ich guter Deutsch sprechen... ich hoffe. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif]</font>


Ja, ich verstehe das... aber nach die 3. Jahr lernt man mehr Worter und weniger Grammatik, weil die deutschen Grammatik so leicht ist.



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2004-03-31, 3:40 PM #24
Ja, ich höre das. Ich habe nur ein Problem mit meinen Deutschlehrer, der ist normal sehr toll: er macht viel mit Grammatik, aber nicht genug, glaube ich, mit Vokabeln. Wann sehe ich WWII Kriegfilmen, kann ich viel Grammatik verstehen, aber kann ich nicht viele Wörter hören. Aber, vielleicht ist es nur die Aussprache.

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2004-03-31, 5:00 PM #25
Ni men dou you shen jing bing. Gua ue shi tien xia z/juae hao de ue wen!

Shut up, my pinyin sucks.

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2004-03-31, 5:01 PM #26
Oh, and

nihongo wa niban dayo [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]

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2004-03-31, 5:10 PM #27
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Flexor:
There's a ton of massassians who claim they can speak french. I've never seen any of them (except goy) who has ever formed a simple coherent sentence without a major syntax, grammar or spelling error.. That should give you an idea of how different it is. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]</font>


I speak French! Honestly, I lived in Paris for 3 years. I just never learned how to write...

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2004-03-31, 7:00 PM #28
A'im betten yuer glodden nine oon ien chaerge sprekins ie Dutche.

That's how I speak german.
Korean is very interesting. I've only learnt a little bit of it, but it's neat.

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2004-03-31, 7:06 PM #29
I would like to learn japanese, but I don't think I have enough guts to start learning it.

I studied german for 6 years, und ich kann nicht ein regulär Satzen formen.

I should have better brains. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/mad.gif]

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2004-03-31, 7:10 PM #30
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2004-03-31, 8:25 PM #31
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Flexor:
If you wanna learn french just for that, you're in for a big disapointement.

There's a ton of massassians who claim they can speak french. I've never seen any of them (except goy) who has ever formed a simple coherent sentence without a major syntax, grammar or spelling error.. That should give you an idea of how different it is. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]


As for me, I wanna learn spanish cause I think it's pretty. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]
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2004-04-01, 7:44 AM #32
Deutsch ist in Ordnung aber Franzoersisch finde ich furchtbar.

I'm taking French and German at GCSE because my school forced it on me. And I'm taking Russian as an AS Business Language... DA, KEPTIN!

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2004-04-01, 8:47 AM #33
Mandarin is the language spoken by most people in the world, so it'd make sense to learn that. The grammar is nifty, too. It's like English, except simple and logical. For example:
'wo he cha' means 'I drink tea'
'ni he cha' means 'You drink tea'.
Now, the word 'ma' means several things;
It can mean 'to buy', or 'to sell', but is also used like a question mark.

So

'ni he cha ma' means 'Do you drink tea?' (so like 'You drink tea?'). Just adding 'ma' makes a sentence into a question! No long and confusing question phrases!

Sorry, I guess I'm the only one that finds grammar all that fascinating. :-)

I figure, to speak to most of the world, you ought to speak Standard English, Mandarin, Cantonese, Arabic, German, Latin, and Spanish (I'm not sure whether knowing Latin would be helpful with Spanish. I know that you could probably just about communicate with an Italian with Latin, and be able to pick apart words in French).

Bokmål Norwegian will
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2004-04-01, 8:49 AM #34
Mandarin is the language spoken by most people in the world, so it'd make sense to learn that. The grammar is nifty, too. It's like English, except simple and logical. For example:
'wo he cha' means 'I drink tea'
'ni he cha' means 'You drink tea'.
Now, the word 'ma' means several things;
It can mean 'to buy', or 'to sell', but is also used like a question mark.

So

'ni he cha ma' means 'Do you drink tea?' (so like 'You drink tea?'). Just adding 'ma' makes a sentence into a question! No long and confusing question phrases!

Sorry, I guess I'm the only one that finds grammar all that fascinating. :-)

I figure, to speak to most of the world, you ought to speak Standard English, Mandarin, Cantonese, Arabic, German, Latin, and Spanish (I'm not sure whether knowing Latin would be helpful with Spanish. I know that you could probably just about communicate with an Italian with Latin, and be able to pick apart words in French).

Bokmål Norwegian would allow you to communicate with most Norwegians and Danes, and understand Swedes. You wouldn't want to talk with them though. :-)
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2004-04-01, 9:38 AM #35
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Mandarin is the language spoken by most people in the world, so it'd make sense to learn that.
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Except all those people are centered on one part of the globe [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

There are more spanish speaking countries than other languages

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">I figure, to speak to most of the world, you ought to speak Standard English, Mandarin, Cantonese, Arabic, German, Latin, and Spanish (I'm not sure whether knowing Latin would be helpful with Spanish. I know that you could probably just about communicate with an Italian with Latin, and be able to pick apart words in French).
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You learn Latin, Italian is easy which makes Spanish easy which makes Cantonese(I think) easy which makes French easy.

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2004-04-01, 10:03 AM #36
Fue en tres anos de espanol. puedo comrender un poco pero no puedo hablo mucho (o escribe mucho, por que no puedo [remember] mucho de la lengua que aprendi un ano despues.

meh, loosing my touch. I forget most of my spanish. I can uhh...sing in italian. I know the pronnunciations, but I have not a clue what I'm saying. I can also sing in french...yeah but I still don't know what I'm saying.

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2004-04-01, 10:15 AM #37
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Sine Nomen:
Arabic, Hebrew, Farsi, Urdu. Mainly Arabic, though.</font>


Consensus. Really.

What about my French Flex [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif] My pronunciation is wayy better now than when i did that French karaoke thing [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]

Currently i speak French German Russian [and English more or less]. I tried learning Latin but the course was so awful i learned nothing basically so i need to teach myself sometime. Then Mandarin !xhoi and Finnish i think..

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