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How Close-Minded Are You?
2004-03-31, 6:11 PM #1
If you had to choose between these two presidential candidates, who would it be: a black, male Democrat or a white, female Republican?

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2004-03-31, 6:14 PM #2
I would never choose a candidate based on those characteristics, even political party affiliation.

If I had no choice but to choose though, I'd probably go with the black, male democrat.

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2004-03-31, 6:19 PM #3
Black Democrat, but really its a very hard question...

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2004-03-31, 6:21 PM #4
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2004-03-31, 6:22 PM #5
It's only "hard" because it's stupid. Like DSettahr said, we've been given no valid information by which to judge the candidates.

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2004-03-31, 6:22 PM #6
the grey alien over there *points*

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2004-03-31, 6:22 PM #7
I'm with DSettahr. I'm not sure if it wise for me to answer but I will anyway. I'd go for the female Republican. And not because she's a female. She's Republican. I'm Republican too.

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2004-03-31, 6:24 PM #8
Well if I was a voting American it would depend greatly on their plans for the country... racial/sexist sterotypes are sorta irrelevent.

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2004-03-31, 6:25 PM #9
... That's an absurdly stupid question
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2004-03-31, 6:25 PM #10
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by MechWarrior:
Well if I was a voting American it would depend greatly on their plans for the country... racial/sexist sterotypes are sorta irrelevent.

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2004-03-31, 6:27 PM #11
I think you guys have missed the point of the thread. Read the title.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by DSettahr:
I would never choose a candidate based on those characteristics, even political party affiliation.

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Then you've just succeeeded in showing how close-minded you are. Those are the options mate, take 'em or leave 'em. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif]

(I'm not trying to get to anyone here or start a flame war, It's just my mom came up with this and I thought it was really awesome so I'd thought I'd share.)


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2004-03-31, 6:30 PM #12
Basicly, what I'm trying to say is this: I was curious to see what people's first impressions would be of the question. It's not meant to be a realistic proposal (although it could happen), instead it's meant to see how bigoted you are against a certain group of people, and when mixed up in this combination, make the question almost impossible to answer - if you're close-minded.

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2004-03-31, 6:32 PM #13
A white female president will prolly come before a black, male president IMO.

white male --> white female -----------> black male ------------> black female ----------------------------> Asian male --------------------------> Asian female.

That's what I think would happen in terms of presidents being elected.

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2004-03-31, 6:36 PM #14
Ahh, but what if she was a Republican, and you hate Republicans, then who would you vote for? It gets tricky.

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2004-03-31, 6:38 PM #15
Well lets all remember... WE'RE ALL STILL THE SAME SPECIES NO MATTER WHAT SEX OR RACE WE ARE AND NONE OF US SHOULD BE CONSIDERED INFERIOUR... God your really trying to get banned tonight aren't you Em Playa.

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2004-03-31, 6:42 PM #16
ok i'll give my answer to your question... i don't vote....

though if i was forced to... i'd vote for whoever agrees to give me more money after i vote for them

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2004-03-31, 6:55 PM #17
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2004-03-31, 7:00 PM #18
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Daft_Vader:
Basicly, what I'm trying to say is this: I was curious to see what people's first impressions would be of the question. It's not meant to be a realistic proposal (although it could happen), instead it's meant to see how bigoted you are against a certain group of people, and when mixed up in this combination, make the question almost impossible to answer - if you're close-minded.

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But I answered the question.

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2004-03-31, 7:02 PM #19
Woman Rep, cause I am racist.

BTW, Em Playa, everyone doesnt hate black people anymore...you can leave your house without fear...been that way for a few decades now.

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2004-03-31, 7:05 PM #20
I wish a robot would get elected President. That way, when he came to town, we could all take a shot at him and not feel too bad...

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2004-03-31, 7:22 PM #21
How is what I'm saying worthy of being banned?

Every single one of our presidents have been white. Talk of Hillary Clinton running for president if Kerry doesn't win is a possibility, which is why I have white female next. Then, that opens the door to black people who haven't even come CLOSE to gettin the presidency, or even being the fore-runner. I would assume Asians would be last because they aren't really considered "American"

And all of those comments I made are being objective.

And Ubuu, that comment was just stupid. I'm disappointed.

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2004-03-31, 8:33 PM #22
What the hell kind of question is this? I could vote for either if they I thought they were the best choice.

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2004-03-31, 10:40 PM #23
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Em Playa:
Every single one of our presidents have been white. Talk of Hillary Clinton running for president if Kerry doesn't win is a possibility, which is why I have white female next. Then, that opens the door to black people who haven't even come CLOSE to gettin the presidency, or even being the fore-runner. I would assume Asians would be last because they aren't really considered "American"
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Clearly, you weren't paying attention when there was a major push for Colin Powell to run for president. And the man is so greatly respected that he probably coulda had a decent chance at it had he been up for trying.

.... And who doesn't consider asians American?
2004-04-01, 1:36 AM #24
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by GBK:
I wish a robot would get elected President. That way, when he came to town, we could all take a shot at him and not feel too bad...

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/me sexes GBK

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2004-04-01, 1:44 AM #25
white female republican (provided she's not a total moron, of course)

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2004-04-01, 1:56 AM #26
I've voted Republican in both elections I've been old enough to take part in, but I'd vote for a black, female Democrat if her positions on the issues fit mine.

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2004-04-01, 10:17 AM #27
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by MechWarrior:
Well if I was a voting American it would depend greatly on their plans for the country... racial/sexist sterotypes are sorta irrelevent.</font>




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2004-04-01, 10:30 AM #28
neither! we shall have a black woman independent president or perish!

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2004-04-01, 10:57 AM #29
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Em Playa:
I would assume Asians would be last because they aren't really considered "American"
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even through all of your objectiveness, you would still get mobbed if you ever said this on public debates/TV/newspaper.

And an american is anyone who has American Citizenship as declared by your country's laws. It's like saying an american who lives in britain isn't really british.



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2004-04-01, 11:25 AM #30
There was a survey on oprah ages ago, where several ethnic groups were asked to decide which groups in society were least and most disadvantaged by their ethnicity

it was asians, hispanics, blacks & whites

all put whites as least disadvantaged, hispanics as most disadvantaged and their own ethic group as 2nd most disadvantaged(except for the hispanics & whites obviously)

I am now going to go kill myself. But not until after Dr Phil is on at 11:30.
2004-04-01, 11:28 AM #31
It depends on a lot more than just race, sex, and political affiliation. If I were forced to choose between Jesse Jackson and Ann Coulter I'd probably just shoot myself in the face.
2004-04-01, 11:44 AM #32
I'd choose neither until knowing more about them. This does not prove I am close-minded because your mother's argument is based on a fallacy called affirming the consequent.

She's saying that:
If you are prejudiced against both women and blacks,
Then you will not decide who to vote for.

Therefore, if you do not decide who to vote for,
Then you are prejudiced against both women and blacks.

The short form for this is:
If A then B.
B.
Therefore, A.

This fallacy fails to take into account that there could be multiple causes of B, not necessarily just A. Meaning that there could be other reasons to vote for neither candidate besides being prejudiced against both of them; specifically that we need more information about their political stances.

You could actually argue that choosing either of the candidates with this limited information shows closed-mindedness because you're demonstrating a preference for/against one of the candidates' attributes without actually knowing anything about them.

For more information about this fallacy, go here.
2004-04-01, 11:57 AM #33
Depends how hot the woman was.

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2004-04-01, 12:01 PM #34
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by TheJkWhoSaysNi:
Depends how hot the woman was.

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Has there ever been a remotely physically attractive president? [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif]

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2004-04-01, 1:04 PM #35
.. JFK?
2004-04-01, 1:20 PM #36
Or Abe Lincoln, for that matter!

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2004-04-01, 1:21 PM #37
Some people thought Clinton was.

Obviously some people did.

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2004-04-01, 1:36 PM #38
I'd vote for Democrat because right now, I dispise the Republicans with a burning passion.

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2004-04-01, 1:42 PM #39
I'd vote for Screaming Lord Such of the Monster Raving Looney's party.

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2004-04-01, 1:47 PM #40
Black male democrat, because I'm a hell of a lot less racist than I am misogynistic.
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