The current JK Files Poll is out, asking

"Which Jedi Knight series game had the best guns?"

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/me puts on a sticker that says: I Voted
DF guns > JK guns
Imperial Repeater all the way

Thats true... DF Guns where better than JK guns.

Much, much better. I miss the fusion cutter, mortar launcher, assault gun (specially the plasma), and DF-style concussion rifle.

I bet half those people who voted haven't even played DF.

And that's the sad part.

Now that I've voted, I'm disgusted at the results... JA!? For one, no one even plays JA guns, and for 2, they don't play JA guns because they royally suck! Seriously, there's no balance, the rocket launcher is sickeningly stupid, and the 'conc' is underpowered and expensive on ammo. Seriously, WTF?

JediKirby

DF had better guns overall, although the Rail Detonator is one of the best.

Damn you, ill-informed public...

Ja guns suck on their own, but if you get all those ppl using savers and ignoring guns its easy to land a good shot in the middle of a big melee and get a big score

My personal favorite move is to run over a big clump of saberists (usually you can find a group of 5 of them or so), force jump over the top of them, dropping remote mines in the area.. most of them don't even notices, and you can get usually 3 of them that way.

and the Stormtrooper Rifle looks much better....

I have fond memories of the imposibility of the Imperial Detention Center in DF.

My post count at [url=www.df-21.net]DF-21[/url] exceeds my Massassi post count by a ratio of 2:1, so guess where my vote went... As for modded weapons, I know you can't really beat DF. While the game has the scripting for weapons hard-coded in, the graphical mods are excelent; who doesn't like the Black Whirlwind?

As for base weapons, my all-time favorite FPS gun is the original Stouker Concussion Rifle in DF. While it may deal only moderate damage, it always does EXACTLY the same damage, and the explosion chains to any enemy within the blast radius, allowing you to take out an entire legion of the Emperor's best troops in a single shot. (A Dark Trooper took 12 shots, though...). My preference for the Concussion Rifle is an anomally, though; I almost always prefer a sniper rifle to any other weapon (though I prefer energy weapons to firearms; my "ultimate weapon" would be an ASMD shock rifle with a scope)

I personally found the guns in Jedi Knight Academy to be of no use. You could beat the game using the lightsaber infact its actually recommend because it was simply the better weapon. You only had to use guns in one level anyways because the boss took your lightsaber away.

I also found the guns in DF to be the best for guns. Simply because Dark Forces was only ment to be a shooting game (guns only) so there was no sabers to overpower and overshadow the guns.

Some of the SP addon levels I've played for the JK series have done a decent job at making sure guns are useful; "Imperial Siege on Derra IV" is good in that you can't simply go in and hack away at all the enemies with the lightsabre and expect to live.

It annoys me that most of the games have turned the lightsabre from "An elegant weapon, from a more civilized age", into a really cheap, over-used, obiquitous weapon. While it would make sense that the lightsabre is almost unmatched for one-on-one combat, I don't like seeing enitre armies fight relying on purely lightsabres; it's just not as fun as a rapid-paced firefight.