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You've gotta be ****ing kidding me...
2004-09-26, 1:10 AM #1
Stupid people need to die.
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2004-09-26, 1:23 AM #2
She should worry more that she might pass on the "idiot" trait to her child.
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2004-09-26, 2:01 AM #3
Ummm... WTF?
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2004-09-26, 2:14 AM #4
I missed something crucial here.
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2004-09-26, 7:20 AM #5
Shes pregnant and smoking but she worries that the sound of jackhammers will harm her baby.
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2004-09-26, 7:22 AM #6
http://stuff.ubersite.com/1096164250403417660/1/File0005.jpg
2004-09-26, 7:23 AM #7
eh?

Now I see it. Wow, that's sad!
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2004-09-26, 7:25 AM #8
Thats pretty sad. Shes probably trying to use it as an escape goat if there is something wrong with the baby. Its people like that who make you want to hate everybody else in general.

By the way, when you first bring up the thread, you dont see the picture. Hit Respon with Qoute to see the address.
2004-09-26, 7:51 AM #9
I'm unable to view the picture but I'm guessing we have no way of judging how often or how much she smokes. Regardless, it is her body and her choice if she wants to smoke.
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2004-09-26, 8:02 AM #10
Quote:
Originally posted by Wookie06
Regardless, it is her body and her choice if she wants to smoke.


And binge-drink, too. You'd just think she'd assume some responsibility.
the idiot is the person who follows the idiot and your not following me your insulting me your following the path of a idiot so that makes you the idiot - LC Tusken
2004-09-26, 8:33 AM #11
Quote:
Originally posted by Wookie06
I'm unable to view the picture but I'm guessing we have no way of judging how often or how much she smokes. Regardless, it is her body and her choice if she wants to smoke.


But she has a baby. And that baby shall grew up to be a different person than her. *shrug*
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2004-09-26, 8:56 AM #12
Quote:
Originally posted by Wookie06
I'm unable to view the picture but I'm guessing we have no way of judging how often or how much she smokes. Regardless, it is her body and her choice if she wants to smoke.


Yes, but it's ironic that she's complaining about what jack hammers might do do the unborn kid when she's smoking, which isn't good for the unborn kid
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2004-09-26, 9:09 AM #13
Actually (I copied the shortcut instead of clickin on it) the caption says she worries about the effects. Makes me wonder how long she is exposed to the noise. And, as I said, we have no idea how much or how often she smokes so there really is not enough information at all to make any judgements. However, none of us can judge this anyway as it is her body and, so long as she is committing any crimes, she is perfectly free to drink or smoke however much she wants since the welfare of a fetus is not an issue.
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2004-09-26, 9:16 AM #14
The story still provides little information. Seems like a non-issue to me.
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2004-09-26, 9:27 AM #15
I think the real question is what kind of a fool would jackhammer that stupid *****?
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2004-09-26, 10:09 AM #16
I'd be more worried about the effects the mother being an idiot will have on the child during its life.
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2004-09-26, 10:38 AM #17
Quote:
Originally posted by Wookie06
However, none of us can judge this anyway as it is her body and, so long as she is committing any crimes, she is perfectly free to drink or smoke however much she wants since the welfare of a fetus is not an issue.


Uh...fetal alcohol syndrome? And for smoking:

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The association between smoking during pregnancy and multiple adverse outcomes, including maternal bleeding, low infant birthweight, infant mortality, and delays in child development (Cornelius, Taylor, Geva, & Day, 1995; Kleinman & Madans, 1985; McGrady, Sung, Rowley, & Hogue, 1992; Mercer, 1987; Schoendorf & Kiely, 1992; Walsh, 1994), is well-documented, and increases the importance of successful cessation.


http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2248/is_140_35/ai_70777833

The "it's my body" argument kind of dies out when her actions directly affect the life of another person.
the idiot is the person who follows the idiot and your not following me your insulting me your following the path of a idiot so that makes you the idiot - LC Tusken
2004-09-26, 10:45 AM #18
But that could apply to abortion too.
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2004-09-26, 10:50 AM #19
Quote:
Originally posted by Wookie06
Regardless, it is her body and her choice if she wants to smoke.



Wow.. and aren't you against abortion?
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2004-09-26, 11:04 AM #20
Generally speaking, yes, however with the current societal trend being that a woman's bodies is hers alone it is disingenuous for those who believe that to criticize a woman for doing something that might harm a fetus while at the same time defending her right to kill it.
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2004-09-26, 12:29 PM #21
This is very different from abortion. It's like saying shooting someone in the head is the same as slowly peeling their flesh off. Yes, both result in death, but one can also cause an unhealthy child who will have to live the rest of their life with some sort of maladay. Abortion never caused that.

Also, if the child is unfortunate enough, he may become seriously retarded and also a ward of the state. Then the money of others will be put into this problem.
2004-09-26, 12:33 PM #22
The issue is the same. It's about choice. A woman can choose to smoke or drink while pregnant. I would hope she would do so responsibly or not at all but it is her choice.

Abortion has been proven to cause pain and suffering in the unborn (not that it always does but it can) so your argument, while I understand it, is invalid or, at least, diminished.
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2004-09-26, 12:51 PM #23
Quote:
Originally posted by Wookie06
The issue is the same. It's about choice. A woman can choose to smoke or drink while pregnant. I would hope she would do so responsibly or not at all but it is her choice.

Abortion has been proven to cause pain and suffering in the unborn (not that it always does but it can) so your argument, while I understand it, is invalid or, at least, diminished.


Not really. I'll put it this way: Would you rather me kill you slow and painfully, over the course of months or possibly even years, or just during one day? I strongly disagree with you on this point.

It's not really about choice, as a said before, because if the baby is not killed, but grows up with a handicap, the person is subject to exponentially more suffering than an aborted fetus.
2004-09-26, 5:28 PM #24
You're going to have to do better explaining your point. Whether I prefer you killing me slowly or quickly you would still be killing me. One may be preferable if you have to suffer it but they're both equally wrong. What is your point?
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2004-09-26, 5:57 PM #25
It's her body, her choice. She'll just have to accept that little Billy never did well in school because of her choices...of course she'll conveniently forget that in a half-hour-long drunken rage while she's beating him for his latest report card.
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2004-09-26, 6:08 PM #26
Quote:
Originally posted by Roach
It's her body, her choice. She'll just have to accept that little Billy never did well in school because of her choices...of course she'll conveniently forget that in a half-hour-long drunken rage while she's beating him for his latest report card.


And that makes it all right.
the idiot is the person who follows the idiot and your not following me your insulting me your following the path of a idiot so that makes you the idiot - LC Tusken
2004-09-26, 6:13 PM #27
No, but if she's stupid enough to do that to her kid, let her deal with it. Let her children deal with it. It's Darwinism. She should be fully aware of what she's doing. It's not a secret that drinking and smoking while pregnant increase the risks for many things. Let her kind die out.
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2004-09-26, 6:57 PM #28
Well this thread certainly made an interesting turn.
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2004-09-26, 9:34 PM #29
Quote:
Originally posted by Wookie06
You're going to have to do better explaining your point. Whether I prefer you killing me slowly or quickly you would still be killing me. One may be preferable if you have to suffer it but they're both equally wrong. What is your point?


Nice how you avoid part two both times:

Quote:
It's not really about choice, as a said before, because if the baby is not killed, but grows up with a handicap, the person is subject to exponentially more suffering than an aborted fetus.


That is my second main point. I don't see why you don't get the first part, but whatever, respond to both sections.
2004-09-26, 9:42 PM #30
Quote:
Originally posted by Wookie06
Generally speaking, yes, however with the current societal trend being that a woman's bodies is hers alone it is disingenuous for those who believe that to criticize a woman for doing something that might harm a fetus while at the same time defending her right to kill it.


Alcohol and drugs, etc generally don't kill a child, just cause it to develop improperly .. so rather it's her right to kill it vs. her right to alter its future into a miserable life .. it's okay to kill it, it's not okay to force it to live miserably .. if she wants to drink/smoke/drugs, then she should just kill it.

Yeah, I'm a sick *******. Whatever.
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2004-09-26, 11:45 PM #31
She can certainly choose to smoke if that's what she wants to do, but that doesn't change the fact that it's ironic that she's complaining about what noise might do to her kid when she is doing something herself that is harmful to her unborn kid
Pissed Off?
2004-09-27, 1:21 AM #32
Quote:
Originally posted by Avenger
She can certainly choose to smoke if that's what she wants to do, but that doesn't change the fact that it's ironic that she's complaining about what noise might do to her kid when she is doing something herself that is harmful to her unborn kid
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2004-09-27, 12:09 PM #33
I agree Roach, Avenger said it best.

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