http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/04/02/news_6092782.html

I wished the screenshots were brighter and sharper. It is unknown whenever or not this is a X-Box 2 or PS3 game.

Doesn't seem a huge step from the current stuff,


and on another note new consoles are coming out too fast, whats the point of gitting a ps3 when with-in another 2 years there well be a 4

Exactly what I thought. The overall appearance of the environment reminded me alot of Halo 2, and that's still on the first XBox.

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Same reason you buy a P4 3ghz now, when the P5 6ghz will be coming out in 2 years.

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PlayStation came out in 1994 (Japan)-1995 (North America). PlayStation 2 came out in 2000. PS3 will come out 2005, maybe 2006. Xbox was released in late 2001. Microsoft will probably rush the release of Xbox 2, so really they're the only one's screwing over their customers. Microsoft should stick to unstable kernels and flashy word processors.

But you can still play the games that are out in 2+years with that p4, and another 2 years easy if your not a max detail freack

/Goes off to play Zork.

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lol, next-gen console isn't even caught up to modern PCs. Wasn't the PS3 supposed to be as fast as like a 10GHz Intel or something? lol...

Next Generation console game? Where's Picard?

a 10ghz chip would probably get hot enough to heat up your coffee if you put your cup on top of the console box. 10 ghz chips probably don't even exist yet.

I agree, PC graphics are still superior.



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Consoles do not concern me....

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I care not. PC's will always be a few steps ahead...

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That kind of logic doesn't really apply to consoles well. New consoles are supposed to come out every five years (at least it has always been like that). Like someone already said, with new consoles, backward compatibility isn't exactly common so forcing consumers to buy a new console sooner than five years is really pushing it. Let's not forget that most console players aren't hardcore gamers that have 200 dollars burning a hole in their pocket every passing hour of the day.

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Dynamic is the word of the future. Dynamic physics being the most important. Graphics have been a major gradually improving aspect since the first 3D accelerators. With ever-increasing processing power and memory capacity, implementing physics isn't as limited as it used to be.

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They don't exist for us. I'm sure somewhere they exist, but they cost enough so that it's not logical to sell them to the common user.

But yah, PC > *.

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The bad part about PC gaming, is the requirements to run it perfectly. Consoles run their game perfectly, and don't have those "OMQ NOT ENUF RESOURCES!!1" or "THIS PROGRUM HAS PURFORMD AN ILLIGIL OPERUTION!1!"

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Uhh, I like the PC better then console games. Who needs a controller when you've got a joystick?

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Although my name represents one of my favorite songs, in a way it also explains my actual person, a Cosmic Castaway!

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Some games are simply better on a console. Sports games for instance.

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Or Halo.

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Um... have you ever seen the Xbox or PS2... they hang just like a PC... FOR **** SAKE THEY ARE PCS!

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I'm going to agree with Nintendo on this issue though, that people aren't that impressed with graphics anymore (At least like they used too). In the past, Graphics would SELL a game. Now, graphics hardly cause the talk they used to back in the day. They still cause some, but time's are changing.

Plus, I agree. I love computer games, but there are games that are BETTER on consoles.

And there is nothing like playing a 4 player console game with a group of people...LAN gaming is not the same, nor is playing online (Like UT04).

That is why: I own both a computer and will own consoles.

It's the best of both worlds: why limit myself?

Why the hell did this turn into another PC Vs. Console debate?

Okay, like someone said. Some games are better on PCs and some games are better on consoles.

Consoles
Sport
Fighting
Platforming
Some third person action Devil May Cry, Prince of Persia Viewtiful Joe, Megaman, etc).

PCs
First Person Shooters
Flight Sims
Real Time Strategy
Click adventures (like Myst)
Mass Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game
Third person shooters like Max Payne

Either
Puzzles
RPGs

*You need to upgrade PCs to play the newer games in the same course as consoles (some consoles are backward compatitble and most people don't sell their own consoles away...hopefully).
*Console games can be played on a bigger screen. However, PC games can be played at a higher resolution. Then again, alot of games do support progressive scan now....
*Most PC games have better replay value because of mods. However, alot of PC games are quite unstable. Sometimes crashing, having graphical problems, etc.
*PCs and game consoles can both be played online (used to be only PCs...).
*Sound surround is impressive on consoles and PCs.

In the end, if you consider yourself a true gamer, then you need to have both a PC and console.

He's dead, Jim.

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Because it mentions the word console. There's always the console bashers/PC lovers who take every opportuntiy to turn it into the same old tired debate how PC's have better specs for games, or are better for games, etc.

Just a note, the types of RPGS that "work" on PCs and the types that "work" on consoles are very different in their design.

It's all about the games, as they say. If you dislike platforming, fighting, console rpg, and sports games, you'd be a complete idiot if you got a console, in most cases. That's why I don't have one. Plus, I like versatility.

There is no PC vs. console debate.

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you can't really tell much from 3 screens that show very little....



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Uh...no? I own a PS2 with 1 game, and I consider myself a gamer. Hardcore. And 4 words--Emulator, Controller for Computer. Nuff said. Granted, emulators are somewhat illegal, depending on how you use them, but if you really wanted to the newer game systems (X-Box, PS2 namely) you can buy the disks then set it up on your computer so that you can play them on there. ePSXe is a great emulator for the PSX. It's all good either way.

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but there are no fully functional emulators for newer consoles... especially PS2 and xbox... at most you can get a game to boot and display some grpahics but playable is not anywhere near a reality

now for 2 slightly older systems
Saturn: few emulators run commercial games from the CD... and most don't do it very well

Dreamcast: if you can find a working emulator that runs commercial games off the disc and it has to be available for download (so icarus does not count) then you win

to put it simply... emulators don't work near as well as the actual hardware and technically it is illegal to run an emulator for a system you do not own because most emulators (at least for PS1) require a bios to run... you don't own the hardware that bios is illegal



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The video the article talks about was released itself. It's not hard to find if you look around a bit.

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you can own a PS2 and use a PS1 bios, and btw, the Saturn has not much of a following, and the Dreamcast has Bleem, lots of other emulators, all that are up for download. Can't name them now, knew them a few years back. Look and ye shall receive my friend.

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The first games on the PS2 when it came out werent much better than the last ones on N64 and PSX... the best looking games always come out later.

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Actually, fiber optic chips were supposedly able to blow away the current chips by at least a 10GHz margin... but since there would be no since in jumping ahead and killing off TRILLIONS in corporate income... it just keeps quiet.. maybe the government uses them or something.


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Damn capatilism! I want me 13 ghz chip NOW!

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You wouldn't even NEED a GPU, or anything else. A computer would consist of a processor, ports, an HDD, and RAM. Of course with CD drives, etc, also.

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Is it just me or does every generation of 'next-gen' games just mean making the environment darker and darker and swathing everything in shadows..

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Its an evil combination of 1) lighting being the thing that shows off the power of a graphics engine the most and 2) keeping it dark allows us to use our imagination more on how powerful it actually is

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uhm... bleem was a PS1 emulator and has been dead for a few years you might be thinking of bleemcast which was a PS1 emulator that ran on the dreamcast to play specific games

there are NO released dreamcast emulators that play COMMERCIAL GAMES all of them that are released only do homebrew stuff and CPU demos

again emulators are not anywhere near as reliable as actual hardware...

oh and the Saturn has a much larger following than you realize...


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I'm not as impressed with consoles as I used to be. I prefer PCs, dues to the fact that they are far more flexible, as well as more powerful. Of course, the big advantage is higher resolutions: You may be surprised, but a standard density TV has a pathetic resolution of 256x224x24bb...

Of course, there are a few types that are more fun on consoles, such as fighting games, sports, and platformers.

As for the fastest processors, I believe the highest clock speed of any chip is currently 3.6 Ghz, for the latest Pentium 4 Extreme Edition. It currently goes for about $1,100 U.S., which is enough to assume that it's the most expensive out there. As for actual performance, it's a toss-up between it, and the Athlon 64 FX (2.2 Ghz), and the PowerMac G5 (2 Ghz).

As for those hyper-advanced ones you hear about... most of those claims are theorietical, and the processor doesn't even exist yet. For more down-to-Earth claims, it is most likely a prototype, and comerical production isn't underway yet. Right now, only traditional silicon/metal chips are known to be stable enough for working models. Fiber-optic processors, as with all other new processor types, are still at least 5 years down the pipe.

For the mean time, enjoy Moore's law. Although it's difficult to go from transistor count to clock speed, I'll say you can expect that 5Ghz P4 sometime in the first quarter of 2006.

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Yep. So I say that in about 2 generations, games will be a black screen with sound. And then they'll start diminishing the sound, so you get that extra spooky "Something's about to happen" effect. So I'd say within 4 generations, there will be a blacks screen and no sound.

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