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P2P downloading legal in Canada
2003-12-14, 10:44 AM #1
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2003-12-14, 10:45 AM #2
Hmm, where abouts in Canada should I move to? [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]



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2003-12-14, 10:50 AM #3
Bargainous.

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2003-12-14, 10:51 AM #4
So, I download, move mp3's to different folder so no one can download from me, and it's OK.
My sister was telling me about this a few months ago and I thought she was just trying to justify something.
Hmmm...

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2003-12-14, 11:14 AM #5
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by TheJkWhoSaysNi:
Hmm, where abouts in Canada should I move to? [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]

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yes quite


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2003-12-14, 11:17 AM #6
Finally, a reason to live in Canada! [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]
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2003-12-14, 11:33 AM #7
I'm gonna dance the happy dance.
2003-12-14, 5:18 PM #8
Uh.. That's just like saying it's legal to rob a store but it's illegal to put up any merchandise for display. What a weird ruling.

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2003-12-14, 5:29 PM #9
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jon`C:
I'm gonna dance the happy dance.</font>


I'm with you Jon!



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2003-12-14, 6:07 PM #10
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Freelancer:
Uh.. That's just like saying it's legal to rob a store but it's illegal to put up any merchandise for display. What a weird ruling.
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Thats a bad analogy.

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2003-12-14, 6:16 PM #11
You're a bad analogy.

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2003-12-14, 6:19 PM #12
Your mom's FACE is a bad analogy!

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2003-12-14, 6:25 PM #13
I'm a bad analogy.

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2003-12-14, 6:33 PM #14
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2003-12-14, 6:58 PM #15
Ofcourse, we Canadians pay a tax on recordable media such as blank CDs as a way to pay the music industry for downloading of music. And soon that tax will apply to HDs, flash media cards and that sort of thing too.

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2003-12-14, 7:22 PM #16
Combined with the ability to control time Canadian citizenship is looking more and more attractive...
2003-12-14, 7:49 PM #17
Hooray for socialism?
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2003-12-14, 8:36 PM #18
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Nytro:
Combined with the ability to control time Canadian citizenship is looking more and more attractive...</font>


Don't forget we can also shoot lasers from our eyes.

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2003-12-14, 9:44 PM #19
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by BobTheMasher:
Hooray for socialism?</font>


Uh...what? Don't tell me you're one of those "Soviet Canuckistan" guys...

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2003-12-14, 10:00 PM #20
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And lightning out of your *** ?

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2003-12-14, 10:27 PM #21
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Hooray for socialism?</font>

Yes.
When that socialism shows a care for our country and fellow citizens? Yes.

btw, other than the health care system, how much more socialist is Canada than the US?
I keep hearing complaints of Canada being socailist like it's a bad thing. Like we are oppressed or something.

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2003-12-14, 10:37 PM #22
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by hinch1:
Ofcourse, we Canadians pay a tax on recordable media such as blank CDs as a way to pay the music industry for downloading of music.
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It's exactly the same in Finland, and P2P downloading of copyrighted material is legal here as well. Downloading music for personal use is considered similar to recording something on the radio.

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2003-12-15, 12:30 AM #23
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Krokodile:
It's exactly the same in Finland, and P2P downloading of copyrighted material is legal here as well. Downloading music for personal use is considered similar to recording something on the radio.

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Same thing with movies, games...


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2003-12-15, 2:28 AM #24
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by CaveDemon:
Same thing with movies, games...


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Movies, yes. Games and other software, no.

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2003-12-15, 4:08 AM #25
OMG!

/me grabs Kazza and runs.
2003-12-15, 4:55 AM #26
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Krokodile:
Movies, yes. Games and other software, no.

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yes.

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2003-12-15, 5:08 AM #27
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by CaveDemon:
yes.

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No, no, and no. If you've been downloading copyrighted games/other software thinking it was legal, you've been wrong, no matter how Finnish you are. Downloading copyrighted audio and video is legal in Finland, but not software. Go to http://www.finlex.fi or something.

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2003-12-15, 5:30 AM #28
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Krokodile:
No, no, and no. If you've been downloading copyrighted games/other software thinking it was legal, you've been wrong, no matter how Finnish you are. Downloading copyrighted audio and video is legal in Finland, but not software. Go to http://www.finlex.fi or something.

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That's the biggest difference between Sweden and Finland in this case.

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2003-12-15, 12:05 PM #29
Dosn't matter if it's legal or not, getting a free game is moarally wrong and it hurts the developer.

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2003-12-15, 12:47 PM #30
Yeah, theres another reason for me to move to canada after college...

Oh, and I know in some cases (movies and games) its not cool to pirate stuff, but from monopolies like the RIAA and programs such as Photoshop that have no Personal Use version for cheaper than the $600+ commercial versions that they sell.. its not like they cant expect for people to pirate it... no one wants to pay $600 to add a little touch to thier site or art.

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2003-12-15, 12:54 PM #31
I got photoshop for free [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif] a Legit version too. One of my tutors at college said basically said "We've got a few space licences, who wants one" I dont know if it's any more legal than downloading it. But i'd think it is.

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2003-12-15, 4:35 PM #32
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Darth Evad:btw, other than the health care system, how much more socialist is Canada than the US?
I keep hearing complaints of Canada being socailist like it's a bad thing. Like we are oppressed or something.
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Well the NDP is a socialist political party, as they believe in public ownership of things. Depending on where you live the "amount" of socialism will vary. In BC, some crown corperations include BC Hydro, ICBC, BC Rail (Until recently). These are all companies that are controlled by the government, and that tends to keep prices down for the consumer. Hydro prices are a fraction of what they are in some places because the Government is able to operate it without being as profit hungry as a private corperation would. (Because the government has better ways to bleed you dry other than through your power bill. That's what Income Tax and GST are about).


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