http://www.ring2-themovie.com/

Click on the ring symbol in the bottom-left corner to view the trailer.

The original is one of my favorite movies of all time, and I can't freakin' wait for this one. It turns out the original director (Gore Verbinski, one of the greatest directors ever) isn't going to be directing this movie, but the original director from Ringu (the Japanese original) is... so it's guaranteed to be great. It's also a brand new storyline, and isn't a remake of a Japanese one.

Anyone excited as I am?

No.

Thoroughly disappointed by the first, but that may be because I kept on comparing it to FearDotCom.

I fear sequels. But...maybe...I don't know...

fixed to show my opinion.

Looks mildly promising.

I don't know why people thought "The Ring" was scary.

The only cool part in the movie was when the tape was played, and there was a spinning, upside-down chair. That was awesome.

I don't think it's wise to make a sequal. If it is half as decent as the original anyways, all Star Wars movies still p\/Vh them.

Eh.

There was the original Ring (often called Ringu), and the sequel Rasen that was released simultaneously.

Rasen didn't really work, so they made Ring 2 pretending that Rasen never happened.

Ring Ø was made later as a prequel to Ring.

Ring Virus is the Korean version, and is more or less a direct remake of Ring with a few elements from the original book added in.

And of course The Ring was the hashed up American version, that's generally accepted as being but a shell of the original, marginally better than Rasen.

So where exactly does The Ring 2 fit into this? Is it an American remake of Ring 2, or Rasen, or perhaps Ring Virus?

that movies sucked. I was expecting to be scared to death. Signs was more scary and better.

Which also sucked.

This is obviously a sequel to the ring of crap around my toilet seat from the last movie.

Seriously, I'd love to see the Japanese version, since it's supposed to actually be a good movie...

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To put it lightly. But at least I could make fun of FearDotCom, and it had Frost from "Blade".

:p

Something I didnt realise, but I was watching the movie "The Gate" yesterday, and the guy that played Frost was the star of that movie. It was made in 1984, you can totally tell it's him, even though he's like 8 years old in it.

Well I saw The Ring and thought it was going to be creepy. I kept hoping the main character would do a breast shot, then I saw the box said PG-13 on it. I was disappointed.

Oh, and I hated the ending. When the girl popped out of the TV screen I couldn't help but cough up *rip off* from like 3 other movies. I was so expecting it.

I enjoyed The Ring, and found it to be quite scary. It's not the scariest movie ever, but it had its moments. What is scary to some may not be scary to others. I thought that House of 1000 Corpses was one of the scariest movies that I've ever seen, while a friend of mine described it as goofy.

Signs was scary? I liked the movie, but I never thought of it as being scary. Interesting.

meh, still waiting for Evil Dead 4.

scary as in suspenseful. well...i guess what made it scary was the fact me and my friend had it on the computer while it was being played in theatres...


House of 1000 Corpses was scary and ****ed up.

Amen to that!:D

in fact, i'm turning off this Kill Bill crap and putting in Dead By Dawn...

What book was this based on?

The American remake of The Ring is a downright insult to the original cult classic. It's such a shame that so many people will be dissapointed by this version and never go on to see the real version of it.

Didn't The Ring do quite well in America? I haven't talked to a single person who disliked it (offline). I've talked to at least a few people who saw it and stated that they'd like to see the other versions. The American version actually turned me on to wanting to see the other versions, and I would think that this is the case for many people. Hell, I even saw the trailer for the Japanese version on The Ring DVD. I think you folks are seriously exaggerating your hatred for this film. Stop being so elitist and just admit that it was at least decent, and that many people actually enjoyed it. It's just a friggin movie.

i'm still confused what the arguement the first one was trying to make was... We had fun with that in ENGL 106...

I'm sorry, but unless you can pull a miracle out of your butt, there will be no Evil Dead 4. Raimi and Campbell both have said that they don't see another Evil Dead sequel in the future. But hey, I liked the series too, so I hope that something changes. As for The Ring...it gets crushed by The Grudge. The Grudge is much freakier in my opinion, and I don't get scared easilly.

The Grudge turned out good?

It didn't really have a plot, but it was still scary.

Damn... I can't believe how many people hate this movie. Both Ringu and The Ring are truly genius movies... I've never seen such great editing and atmosphere presented in a movie before; and the symbolism that's intertwined through the storyline is incredible. I think the Japanese release is a classic, and the American remake did the original justice.

I think you guys are overlooking what The Ring is... it's not a horror film. If you go in the theater expecting to see some zombie flick with loads of blood and guts and to pee your pants, you'll be disappointed. Ringu was one of the first movies that didn't throw gore at the viewer to scare him... it psychologically unnerved you. If you actually pay close attention to the movie, you wouldn't believe all of the subliminal references they put in there. There's 3 instances where you see a shot of the ring for one frame, and one part where you can see Samara staring out of the TV for a couple frames (the American one when Rachel falls into the well). If that's not genius editing, I don't know what is.

The story is awesome too... me and my dad watched it one night, analyzing all of the symbols and subliminal references in the movie. If you have any questions about anything that confused you, it can probably be explained. If you look past the ever-so-common "It didn't scare me, so it must be crap" stereotype, you'll find a set of great, well-done movies.

You'll be waiting a looong time.

Horror is exactly what Ring is. Ring is really a perfect example of cult J-Horror and is psychologically terrifying on many levels.

The American version fundementally misunderstood the significance of the title, as it has nothing to do with a physical circle. There is no circle in the cursed video, and there is no circle that kills you.
If anything, the significance of the title lies in the ring-like structure of the DNA double helix. Genetics plays an important part in the story of Sadako. Sadako had Testicular Feminization Syndrome and she was raped by a young doctor infected with smallpox, who then threw her into a well. She used her psychic powers to combine the genetic code, and burnt her mental projections onto a videotape. Those that watch the video are infected with the virus, which replicates and kills them after seven days. It is not Sadako personally that comes out and kills them. The scene where she comes out of the television is a hallucination from the virus. I think any reflective surface will create a similar effect. There were plenty of other victims that didn't die anywhere near a television, like Tomako, or those in the car.


These are the kinds of subtleties that the American version didn't even attempt to replicate.


And the slow, measured pace that made Ring so tense are replaced by unnecessary banter. Simple silence is a powerful tool in horror films.

The American remake does away with much of the supernatural aspect, making many of the characters completely irrelevant and useless. There's the unfortunate necessity to explain away everything, removing the deliberate vagueness of the original. There are explanations for all the events, that's exactly what the films are about, they're quite scientific in their method, but the explanations are not simple and they're not laid out blatantly. The American version simplified everything, and put it all on the table, leaving nothing to the viewer's imagination.

For some reason, no movie has ever come close to scaring me. Ringu was the closest however, but it still didn't succeed. Nevertheless, I thought it was still a great movie, and a great film for its genre.

I agree with what Temperamental has said. And Whelly on that the Ring isn't a horror film, just a disturbing one.

The Ring confused me far to much for me to want to see it again, left me with a WTF idea

The guy who directed the Japanese version of The Grudge also directed the American version. Thus his vision was kept true to what happened in the Japanese version. This is why I plan on seeing The Ring 2 in theatres. After giving it some thought, if the director of the original Ringu is doing the American sequel, it should be worth seeing.

And maybe she'll do that breast shot.

When I say horror, I mean the stereotypical, gory zombie flicks (which The Ring is not). Ringu started the sub-genre "psychological horror".

As for the title, the director of Ringu stated that he chose the name "Ring" because it had lots of uses as a word. i.e. as a verb (to go 'ring' somebody), a noun, etc. He didn't necessarily choose it for its circular properties.

I guess you're taking all of the material out of the original novel... is that right? The original novel and Ringu are very different in approach to the story.

Actually, I was reading on Deadites.net that there was an article in which Sam Raimi stated that once he's done the Spiderman series he wants to do a 4th Evil Dead film.

HAHA! I was just about to post the exact same thing.

Are you on the forums there? Whats your nick? and woo!

I'm a big coward when it comes to scary movie and the first one I saw was the Ring. After having a easy childhood of no scary movies, needless to say, I was scared.:(

All of the material I posted about can be deduced from the film alone. You see the scenes of the various different people dying, most of them not anywhere near a television, so the cause of death cannot be Sadako personally climbing out of a TV and throttling them to death, she has to be acting indirectly and the scene of her climbing out of the TV must be either a hallucination from the victim or some psychic mirage.
The virus thing can be inferred from the cursed video, it hints very strongly at the involvement of genetics. The backstory of Sadako is explained explicitly when they arrive at the island (though your understanding would depend upon your quality of subtitles), and far moreso in the sequel and prequel. Yes, the Testicular Feminization Syndrome probably can't be inferred from Ring directly, but can be from Ring Ø and possibly Ring 2.

And yes, Ring does leave you thinking 'wtf'. Japanese films often do that, though not exclusively. Donnie Darko is a fantastic example of a similar style of storytelling, leavings loads of open ends and unanswered questions. Those are the kinds of films that will leave you pondering for weeks afterwards. Yes, the bog standard happy-ending all-answered comedy action film will probably provide more short-term enjoyment, but once it's done, that's it (I'm thinking here of Die Hard style films).

Also, I wouldn't say that Ring started the psychological horror genre. Hitchcock can probably be attributed that honour. But zombie films really are not horror. 'zombie films' are practically a genre of their own.