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A quick question about The Matrix: Reloaded.
2004-11-02, 2:24 PM #1
Yeah, if you havn't seen it, this has spoilers, but I don't think this warning is necessary since most everyone has.

Anyway, when Neo meets with the Architect in the room with all the monitors, what's the significance of the monitors showing different reactions of Neo to some of his responses? It's just something that's been bothering me, is it supposed to be all the different choices he can make on how to answer and every screen shows every reaction he could make?
2004-11-02, 2:31 PM #2
i think you answered your own question
free(jin);
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2004-11-02, 2:33 PM #3
You guessed it.
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2004-11-02, 2:35 PM #4
You just answered it.


The thing about the monitors showing different reactions is telling you that the Matrix is built up of different outcomes for choices, and the freedom to do any of them. All monitors represent a single choice of reaction he could do. All possible choices are in each monitor.

Kinda hard to explain, but you get what I mean?
2004-11-02, 2:39 PM #5
did anyone almost die when they saw that scene in theaters? i mean.. the instant i saw it i was reminded of the interrogation scene (the into zooms through a screen with a bunch of other screens right next to eachother, that look just like the architect room) and i thought they actually did think out most of that part, like the architect had been watching him since he first got involved with smith.

i just thought that was cool.
2004-11-02, 5:30 PM #6
I almost died laughing in Scary Movie 3 when she meets the architect, and all the monitors are displaying videos of her getting undressed, taking a shower, etc., and the architect is hitting on her... yah.
Stuff
2004-11-02, 6:11 PM #7
Quote:
Originally posted by Cazor
did anyone almost die when they saw that scene in theaters? i mean.. the instant i saw it i was reminded of the interrogation scene (the into zooms through a screen with a bunch of other screens right next to eachother, that look just like the architect room) and i thought they actually did think out most of that part, like the architect had been watching him since he first got involved with smith.

i just thought that was cool.


I noticed that too, I went back and watched the first one, and what do you know, its the excat same kind of screen.

Very cool.
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2004-11-02, 6:18 PM #8
haha oh man, kyle90. did you see the mtv matrix thing? holy crap. even if you hate the matrix, buying the dvd for reloaded is worth just that. will ferrell is hilarious.

"ergo.. vis a vis... concourdantly... you know what? i have no idea what the hell im saying. i just thought it would make me look cool"

*neo looks down* "no no, up here!" *looks at him weird* "you are bizzare..."
2004-11-02, 6:39 PM #9
Quote:
Originally posted by Cazor
haha oh man, kyle90. did you see the mtv matrix thing? holy crap. even if you hate the matrix, buying the dvd for reloaded is worth just that. will ferrell is hilarious.

"ergo.. vis a vis... concourdantly... you know what? i have no idea what the hell im saying. i just thought it would make me look cool"

*neo looks down* "no no, up here!" *looks at him weird* "you are bizzare..."


I got the DVD from the library, and ripped just that part to my hard drive. That is the ONLY thing I've seen Will Ferrell do that I actually thought was funny.
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Last Stand
2004-11-02, 8:51 PM #10
I seriously thought that the two sequels ruined the series completely. The first Matrix alone leaves just enough to the imagination that we don't need a sequel.

However, the resulting two sequels are worse in every important way (Forget scale). The acting, for example, is completely blank and devoid of emotion...like they are just trying to play on the "I'm so cool, my face is permanantly frozen in coolness" look from the first movie. Problem is, they do it in EVERY, SINGLE moment they have on screen. In the first Matrix, they had their cool looking moments but they also showed emotion when they needed to. In Reloaded and Revolutions it just was too much. It's like those geeks and losers you see on the street or in school who try (key word here is TRY) to look cool by copying the matrix and wearing black trenchcoats and walking around with blank expressions all the time. It's just laughable.

The only exception to the degredation in acting in the sequels is Hugo Weaving as Agent Smith, as they actually gave him more personality and character development than any of the leads. And he's a friggin program!

Beyond acting, the story and dialogue fell victim to what I'd like to call George Lucas syndrome (prequel years). The Wachowski brothers got so caught up in the mechanics of this world they created that they completely forgot why people loved the first movie to begin with.
Instead, they throw an overbearing array of Philosophy 101 garbage on screen and see what sticks. In the first movie, philosophy was only a subtext. People could take out of it as much or as little as they wished. Because the focus was on the story. Here we have the focus on all the wrong things.

I feel the architect scene is the culmination of all that is wrong with the sequels.
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2004-11-02, 9:03 PM #11
I'd have to agree with most of that.
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Last Stand
2004-11-02, 9:12 PM #12
I may be wrong, but I'm almost 100% positive that the many television screens were the reactions and choices that the other versions of Neo made, and NOT the choices he could make.. It would only make sense given the context of what their whole conversation revealed....Which was that the events that were happening had happened 5 times before, and Neo was the 6th version. However, there was something different about this version (meaning he could actually end the loop).
2004-11-02, 9:14 PM #13
It seems like there were far too many screens for that to be the case.
2004-11-02, 9:19 PM #14
Yah, the architect said there were six previous versions, right? So then there would only be 6 TV screens.
Stuff
2004-11-02, 9:21 PM #15
Not really, because if you look at each screen (watch the scene over again) you'll notice (or at least I thought I did) that each screen isn't different. There are different reactions, but on a lot of screens there is the same reaction as other ones, ergo there's 5 different reactions playing on all the screens, with the extra screens playing random repeats of the other ones.

50 Screens - 5 versions = 45 extra screens left. These 45 replay randomly, the other 5 versions on them. Like say, 5 would play one version, a different 5 would play the next, and so on and so forth. They would have to fill the many different screens somehow.

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