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Air Force report calls for $7.5M to study psychic teleportation
2004-11-05, 6:50 PM #1
The link should work now

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Soviet and Chinese studies of psychics and U.S. military studies of spoon-bending phenomena.

Really?

Edit:For some reason I can't get the cut and paste link to work so I'll post the article here.

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Air Force report calls for $7.5M to study psychic teleportation

Fri Nov 5, 6:33 AM ET

By Dan Vergano, USA TODAY

Star Trek fans may be happy to hear that the Air Force has paid to study psychic teleportation.


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But scientists aren't so thrilled.


The Air Force Research Lab's August "Teleportation Physics Report," posted earlier this week on the Federation of American Scientists (FAS) Web site, struck a raw nerve with physicists and critics of wasteful military spending.


In the report, author Eric Davis says psychic teleportation, moving yourself from location to location through mind powers, is "quite real and can be controlled." The 88-page report also reviews a range of teleportation concepts and experiments:


• Quantum teleportation, a technique demonstrated in the last decade that shifts the characteristics, but not the location, of sub-atomic particles at great distances.


• Wormholes, a highly theoretical possibility whereby the intense gravitational field near black holes could rip open entrances to distant locales.


• Psychokinesis, or psychic teleportation. In support of the idea, the report cites UFO reports, Soviet and Chinese studies of psychics and U.S. military studies of spoon-bending phenomena.


"It is in large part crackpot physics," says physicist Lawrence Krauss of Case Western Reserve University, author of The Physics of Star Trek, a book detailing the physical limits that prevent teleportation. He describes the Air Force report as "some things adapted from reasonable theoretical studies, and other things from nonsensical ones."


Some experts have long criticized what they see as a military sweet tooth for junk science. A "remote viewing" project, for example, undertaken by defense intelligence services and declassified in 1994, sought to see whether psychic powers could be employed to spy on the Soviet Union. The teleportation report "raises questions of scientific quality control at the Air Force," the FAS' Steven Aftergood says.


Davis, a physicist with Warp Drive Metrics of Las Vegas, couldn't be reached for comment. The Air Force paid $25,000 for the report, part of a $20.5 million advanced rocket and missile design contract. The report calls for $7.5 million to conduct psychic teleportation experiments.


"The views expressed in the report are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy of the Air Force, the Department of Defense (news - web sites) or the U.S. Government," says an Air Force Research Lab (AFRL) statement sent to USA TODAY. "There are no plans by the AFRL Propulsion Directorate for additional funding on this contract."


Explaining why the lab sponsored the study, AFRL spokesman Ranney Adams said, "If we don't turn over stones, we don't know if we have missed something."
2004-11-05, 6:59 PM #2
...right.

Well, maybe they can go back and use these psychics to kill whichever Congressmen and Senators pass this one.
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2004-11-05, 7:08 PM #3
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yuri and his psychic legions must have disabled it.
2004-11-05, 7:12 PM #4
bush would do it to, thats whats sad. screw us all for stuff that we would actually need *cough*education,healthcare,environment*cough*. yeah, ill just go away now.
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2004-11-05, 7:16 PM #5
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2004-11-05, 7:38 PM #6
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Originally posted by Septic Yogurt
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Same here.
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2004-11-06, 2:52 PM #7
Cool, so they want to study teleportation..

So what is your bet on? Will it be more like Doom or Half-Life?
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2004-11-06, 3:34 PM #8
It's really sad that sound scientific research that would benefit humanity gets no funding at all, but crackpot 'science' gets millions simply because it might possibly benefit the army.

Really, we need governments that'll fund science simply for the sake of science, rather than funding only those that benefit the military.

Things like Quantum teleportation and Wormholes, they are fascinating theoretical concepts. but they don't need funding. They need time, they need to be studied and researched. Throwing money at them isn't going to make scientists think any faster. This is like trying to invent the computer before electricity was discovered.

The US government isn't funding particle accelerators. It is with these that we need to study the fundemental particles that make up the Universe. From then on, perhaps, we might lead to quantum teleportation. That certainly isn't impossible. There is no law that states that it is physically impossible. But we will not achieve it any time soon. Da Vinci drew up plans for a helicopter, but there was no way he could build it, he was centuries ahead of his time. We are in a similar position today.

As for psychokinesis..ugh..

Bush really needs to start listening to scientists and stop listening to politicians and army generals. And sign up for the damn Kyoto agreement, too.
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2004-11-06, 4:25 PM #9
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Originally posted by 7
bush would do it to, thats whats sad. screw us all for stuff that we would actually need *cough*education,healthcare,environment*cough*. yeah, ill just go away now.


Somehow I doubt Bush would do it, considering the fact that he considers himself a passionate Christian. Christian belief and psychokinesis don't mix you know.
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2004-11-06, 4:31 PM #10
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Originally posted by SavageX378
Christian belief and psychokinesis don't mix you know.


...why?
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2004-11-06, 8:47 PM #11
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Originally posted by Wolfy
...why?


Because it doesn't...
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2004-11-06, 9:01 PM #12
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Originally posted by 7
yeah, ill just go away now.


Smart move.

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Originally posted by SavageX378
Christian belief and psychokinesis don't mix you know.


again... why? i'd really like to see you back that up.
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2004-11-06, 9:07 PM #13
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Originally posted by Wolfy
...why?


They're considered acts done with the power of Satan.
2004-11-06, 9:17 PM #14
Considering it sounds like the specters that were talked about back when they were hanging accused witches... Yeah. Wrong President.
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2004-11-06, 9:33 PM #15
Now wait, before we all disbelieve these ideas to be completelly false, why don't we take a trip back to the stoneage, where fire was new and amazing. Fire 2.0 soon came out, and after that, the 'Water' bug fix.

The world was revolutionized with the kandle kernel, and soon followed up by Lantern. An off brand Stove was used as a heat rendering unit, able to heat things.

But in all seriousness, the idea of elecricity is quite a far-fetched one, yet somehow, we managed to do it. Edison and bell were called mad for assuming that anything could be sent electronically.

We were wrong than. We simply won't know until we've tried it. Retried it, and redesigned it.

I mean, if microsoft spent as much money on prosthetic robotics as they do on pirating prevention, I'd probably be standing on 2 normal legs and socking Cazor in the face with two normal hands. We just don't know yet.

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2004-11-06, 10:59 PM #16
/huggles kirby

yeah, that's all i have to say
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2004-11-06, 11:33 PM #17
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Originally posted by jEDIkIRBY


I mean, if microsoft spent as much money on prosthetic robotics as they do on pirating prevention, I'd probably be standing on 2 normal legs and socking Cazor in the face with two normal hands.

If microsoft made it, what would you when it crashes?
2004-11-07, 10:36 AM #18
Good point...

I'd switch to unix, the stand-alone distro.

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2004-11-07, 11:05 AM #19
Only $7.5 million? Not a huge amount of money for something so "big" of a project.
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2004-11-07, 5:22 PM #20
It's still quite alot for something that is quite ludicrous.

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