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Hairy little idiots!
2004-11-09, 4:26 AM #1
"Many Bothans died to bring us this information"

I've never understood this statement. What were these Bothans doing?

The most logical explanation is that the Bothans had infiltrated the Empire, got caught and were executed. However, Bothans are all furry and non-human, and as we all know, the Imperial doesn't recruit non-humans so a Bothan spy would be immediately recognized as such!

Second possibility: Maybe the Bothans have bribed Imperials to give them the information. But then how did they die? Also, why didn't they get the information to the Rebels before they died? Don't they have radios?

Third, and lastly, they could have been like our old friend Kyle and infiltrated a base by force. First of all, why would the rebels send a force of all Bothans to do that job? Couldn't they just have sent Kyle?

Maybe every one of them got the information, but accidently shot themselves in the head immediately?
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2004-11-09, 4:28 AM #2
Maybe they were just really clumsy, and kept falling over and cracking their heads open?

*shrugs*
2004-11-09, 4:36 AM #3
Have you ever played X-Wing Alliance? It's pretty much explained through a couple of missions. The bothans infiltrate the sector by smuggling themselves onboard freighters. Someone tips off the imperials and their cover is blown. A huge convoy of freighters is intercepted by a star destroyer and they're ordered to stop their engines and await inspection. Since some of the other freighters were carrying illegal spice, they tried to make a run for it. The bothan freighters used that opportunity to try and escape as well, but nearly half of them were fired upon and destroyed.

The bothans were also deeply involved in recovering and decoding the data disk that contained the plans for the second death star.
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2004-11-09, 4:39 AM #4
On a related note, the one mission where you have to capture the plans from the freighter Surprosa is a scene that was originally taken from the 'Shadows of the Empire' novel. In fact, it's exactly the same, line-for-line, including the missile that's fired off and destroys various Y-Wings. They only added a little surprise when the Y-Wings hyper away, something that wasn't in the novel.
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2004-11-09, 5:00 AM #5
That's stupid. :(
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2004-11-09, 6:46 AM #6
You mean George didn't change it to be "Jar-Jar Binks died to bring us this information"?
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2004-11-09, 11:41 AM #7
You know I wouldn't actually mind if that was the case as long as Jar Jar dies a horrible terrible death I could care less how they mess with the plot to support it.
2004-11-09, 11:48 AM #8
do you see any bothans at any point in the movies?

do they look like tribbles or something?
2004-11-09, 11:50 AM #9
Quote:
Originally posted by Frozen_Heart
You know I wouldn't actually mind if that was the case as long as Jar Jar dies a horrible terrible death I could care less how they mess with the plot to support it.


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2004-11-09, 12:07 PM #10
Heck, ANYTHING that involves the death o f Jar-Jar Binks is a good improvement...
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2004-11-09, 1:44 PM #11
Quote:
Originally posted by Septic Yogurt
do you see any bothans at any point in the movies?

do they look like tribbles or something?

Think of a Humanoid with a mix bettween a dog and a monkey for a head
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2004-11-09, 1:50 PM #12
I knew, but I forgot.
2004-11-09, 2:52 PM #13
Quote:
Originally posted by Flexor
...some of the other freighters were carrying illegal spice...
Hehe. "Illegal spice." I think we all know what that is...
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2004-11-09, 2:55 PM #14
Quote:
Originally posted by DogSRoOL
Hehe. "Illegal spice." I think we all know what that is...


Cinammon?

Oh, and Bothan (not seen in the movies):
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2004-11-09, 2:55 PM #15
The spice extends life, the spice expands consciousness, the spice is vital to space travel.
2004-11-09, 3:05 PM #16
Isn't it that one that makes people temporarily have force powers? Mined on Kessel methinks?
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2004-11-09, 3:07 PM #17
On Earth they're just called "drugs", and they only make you THINK you have special powers...
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2004-11-09, 3:09 PM #18
bothans played a huge role in getting the plans and the location of the death star. look at this starwars card of it:
bothan spy
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2004-11-09, 4:00 PM #19
Quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Stafford
The spice extends life, the spice expands consciousness, the spice is vital to space travel.


Wrong universe my friend.
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2004-11-09, 4:22 PM #20
Also, Palpy planted the information so the bothans would find it, so he could ambush the Rebels when they tried to attack the death star at Endor. Hence the line "Now you shall witness the power of this armed and fully operational battlestation". The rebels thought it wasn't finished yet, because Palpy tricked the bothans. yep.
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2004-11-09, 4:30 PM #21
Last I checked, it was artoo who obtained the deathstars info. It may have just been an updated version, but I think the rebels were as suprised to find the deathstar as Han was.

Oh, and the phrase "Many Bothans died to bring us this information" is only a political term to give the bothans more power, when in-fact, the numbers are probably obscure, and swayed in their favor.

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2004-11-09, 4:37 PM #22
The Bothan's found the second Death Star's info. I'm not sure who found the first's, but R2 delivered it.
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2004-11-09, 4:44 PM #23
Quote:
Originally posted by spe
The spice extends life, the spice expands consciousness, the spice is vital to space travel.


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2004-11-09, 4:46 PM #24
did you not play Dark Forces?
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2004-11-09, 5:09 PM #25
Quote:
Originally posted by Chaz Ghostle
I'm not sure who found the first's


It was Kyle Katarn. Duh.......



Also, read the Shadows of the Empire book. it explains everything about the bothans.
2004-11-09, 5:30 PM #26
Quote:
Originally posted by jEDIkIRBY
Last I checked, it was artoo who obtained the deathstars info. It may have just been an updated version, but I think the rebels were as suprised to find the deathstar as Han was.

Oh, and the phrase "Many Bothans died to bring us this information" is only a political term to give the bothans more power, when in-fact, the numbers are probably obscure, and swayed in their favor.

JediKirby


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2004-11-10, 12:41 PM #27
You know, I thought it might have been Kyle. I don't own Dark Forces. It's been a very long time since I played it (before JK was released).
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2004-11-10, 12:48 PM #28
Quote:
Originally posted by Chaz Ghostle
You know, I thought it might have been Kyle. I don't own Dark Forces. It's been a very long time since I played it (before JK was released).


How can you not own Dark Forces? It is by far the best out of the entire DF series and spin-offs. If it wasnt for the graphics being so 1995-ish I would still play it every day.
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2004-11-10, 12:53 PM #29
I don't play DF I play the DF mod for JA... same thing except better graphics and design.... but they kept it pretty much the same.
2004-11-10, 12:54 PM #30
I didn't own a computer until 8th grade. I played it on the school computers when I was in 3rd or 4th grade. I'm a Senior now.
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2004-11-10, 4:53 PM #31
R2 got the info about the FIRST Death Star when he was onboard it...

Bothans found out about the other one. A group of Bothans + Luke + Dash Rendar attacked the freighter carrying the plans, and some Bothans were blown away by a missile that Dash tried his hardest to destroy but failed to. Later on, the Bothans are looking through/deciphering the data and the base they're at gets attacked by Imperials.
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2004-11-10, 6:16 PM #32
no, Katarn gave the plans to the rebels, it managed to get to Leia, who put them in Artoo & gave him a message/mission, and so on till Yavin
Vader captured the 'Diplomatic Vessle' because he KNEW the plans were on there, carried by Leia
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2004-11-10, 7:44 PM #33
Quote:
Originally posted by Glyde Bane
Isn't it that one that makes people temporarily have force powers? Mined on Kessel methinks?


Yep. It's in one of the trilogies. Not sure who's spinoff. Kevin J Anderson, I think. And it's called Glitterstim.
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2004-11-10, 7:57 PM #34
Quote:
Originally posted by Acharjay
R2 got the info about the FIRST Death Star when he was onboard it...


Why does R2 aggresively seek out Obi Wan then if he has nothing? Why do the Imperials want the droid so badly that they torch Luke's home? Why does Luke uproot himself and leave the only place he's known for so long? :p

THINK man.

2004-11-10, 8:05 PM #35
http://images.google.com/images?q=Bothan&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search

I always thought Bothans were a little shorter though.
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2004-11-10, 8:26 PM #36
[http://gioco.net/starwars/ultimosettore/images/chars/bothan%20male%20(General%20Se'lab).png]

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