http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/11/10/iraq.main/index.html

they found the houses in Falluja where the terrorists have been beheading the people. Just reading this report made me sick to my stomach when I remembered the Nick Berg video and such.

I hope they get Zarqawi.

On a side note, this article goes and talks about how American forces are respecting the mosque's sanctity unless terrorists are using it as a base and then they call in airstrikes. I'm sorry, but in WW2 countless cathedrals and churches were razed in the air campaigns. I know that the Middle East is poor and so they cling zealously to their religion and holy places like Chaucerian children, but get over it, it's a building. When I was in Dresden this summer, the city was just now finalizing the reconstruction of the city's synagogue which was totally destroyed in the Allied incendiary bombing campaign. It's a building. If a stupid building is that important to your religion, then you need to get out more.

/rant

The problem is, that the religion is the state, and if there is an attack against an islamic mosque, its considered an attack against all the people of islam.

yes they are very touchy people, but thatnks to bush they will be hating us for the next fifty years.

Ah I'd say about 100.

If the terrorists are hiding in mosques and using them as bases, then we have every right to bomb them. Otherwise, of course it's bad to bomb places of worship. However, if terrorists use mosques as bases, then we have no choice but to bomb the hell out of the place.

...we need the USSR back. It kept their hotheadedness in check.

Except that no other Muslim nation in no occasion whatsoever in the history of mankind has ever come to help another nation under attack. No muslim nation helped the muslims in Palestine, Chechnya, Kashmir, Srebrenica, etc. So the people of the Islam aren't that nurturing over each other.

I kind of agree with bobafett765, except that America has no business in Iraq in the first place. They should help those muslims that are being oppressed all over the world and are in dire need of help, not bulldozer over a country you already effectively destroyed a decade ago. But hey, there's no oil in charity.

Well there's one vote for the cold war... anyone else gonna support this motion or shall we just hang one man for treason?

*step*

*splat*

Oh. Oh, God. What's this I stepped into? It looks like vomit.

Oh, wait. It's a regurgitated argument.

If Americans blew up random mosques, the religious people would revolt intensely. So it wouldn't be such a good idea to destroy a site that is so sacred and attached to the people.

OK, ask yourself: If we blew a hole into the pope's forehead, do you think it'd just be another casualty? OK, what if there was a terrorist behind him? No. There's no excuse in blowing up a religious place unless there's gunshots comming from it. And even then, you clear it out. Having descensitization towards someone's religion simply because you're unfamiliar with the importence of Mosques is utterly inhumane. Seriously, I'm disgusted that you'd say they're "Just buildings."

JediKirby

Because a building is the equivelent to a human life...:p

Buildings like that are considered equivalent to several human lives.

Um...me?

Come on Grismath, help me out here.

Exactly.

Oh, and me too.

There's no reason they can't get over it, if we and the Iraqi government rebuild them soon after. Something like this happened in Egypt in the 90's - a neighborhood in Cairo was essentially taken over by the Muslim Brotherhood (really old, well-established Islamist movement). The government stormed it, cleared the place out, rebuilt everything and put a lot more cops on the street. It's fine now..well, for a poor neighboorhood in a teeming Arab city, at least.

Respect the values of other religions in war time insofar as those values do not harm you.

Your just jealous cause we got their first:P

It's a building, it can be rebuilt. With an ice cream parlor too.

I agree. I might suck to lose a place of worship, but it's a building. If it's damaged or destroyed, it can be repaired or rebuilt. I'm not advocating targeting Mosques specifically, but if it's an enemy stronghold, it should be treated as such.

Aye. Bricks and mortar can be recomissioned, dead people don't stitch up quite so easily though...

Well, not in the Frankenstein's Monster sense anyway...

So... Did you see the attack on the World Trade Center as an attack an attack against concrete and steel, or against American values?

Mosques are symbolic. Not to mention historic.

Flying planes into innocent people is a crap analogy for bombing soldiers who hide in mosques.

Yes it was a symbolic target, but also a very well calculated one for causing maximum disruption to the US.

Exactly. It was a target symbolic of the American people, much like mosques are for Islamic people.

I'm not saying there's no excuse for destroying a mosque or anything like that, hell no, I'm just saying I understand why Islamic people get so upset about it.

Ah... I get you now.

I wonder if they get as uspet by each and every mosque? I've been to the middles east and they're absolutely everywhere - more so than churches even here in Durham (Cathedral City).

If there was a war here, I doubt people would be up in arms about the loss of St. Giles' round the corner, but obviously if the Cathedral were used (grade 1 listed building) there'd be quite literally hell to pay...

Quite frankly they have no one to get upset at except the idiot insurgents hiding in them.

...I never said let's bomb all the mosques, I'm just saying that if the terrorists are using as a base and the Coalition troops return fire there shouldnt be any restrictions on what they can do in order to secure the situation. Human lives are always more valuable than buildings.