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Scott Peterson is Guilty as charged.
2004-11-12, 3:51 PM #1
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Whatever they choose to do I hope it really hurts this baby killer. Personally I want death and for him to twitch a bit... how bout you guys?
2004-11-12, 4:22 PM #2
There are still appeals and a ton of other things that are going to happen. It's long from over.
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2004-11-12, 4:39 PM #3
*shudder* i had forgotten about that case, but just reading the headline reminded me all about it. Ugh, such a hideous case. I'm glad this guy is being brought to justice.
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2004-11-12, 4:44 PM #4
I really hope he gets death.
2004-11-12, 4:51 PM #5
He should be staked to the wall by his nuts.
2004-11-12, 5:11 PM #6
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Originally posted by Pagewizard_YKS
He should be staked to the wall by his nuts.


Quite the coincidence considering the post I just made in the "Saving Private Ryan" thread. :p

Yeah, I think he deserves the nut-stake.
2004-11-12, 5:17 PM #7
1st degree convictions in California mean ****. At worst he'll get life in prison. I'll be damn surprised if they execute the *******.
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2004-11-12, 5:20 PM #8
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Originally posted by Avenger
There are still appeals and a ton of other things that are going to happen. It's long from over.

Yeah, I agree. I don't think this is it at all.
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2004-11-12, 6:35 PM #9
I can't say I care at all.

In fact, I never cared about the case at any time.
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2004-11-12, 6:42 PM #10
What is so different in this case than hundreds of other gruesome murder cases?
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2004-11-12, 7:11 PM #11
Though this guy deserves nothing better than Hell itself, I bet the court is going to be so tied up on one thing or another forever. He'll probably die in prision before execution day arrives.
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2004-11-12, 7:53 PM #12
This guy should be beaten, tortured, castrated, then drug through the streets like a dog. After that, if he is still alive, he should be shot. Twice.

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Originally posted by Echoman
What is so different in this case than hundreds of other gruesome murder cases?

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Scott Peterson was convicted Friday of murdering his pregnant wife and dumping her body in San Francisco Bay in what prosecutors portrayed as a cold-blooded attempt to escape marriage and fatherhood for the bachelor life.
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2004-11-12, 8:04 PM #13
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Originally posted by gbk
Scott Peterson was convicted Friday of murdering his pregnant wife and dumping her body in San Francisco Bay in what prosecutors portrayed as a cold-blooded attempt to escape marriage and fatherhood for the bachelor life.


Yes.... And you're telling me other human beings haven't done this, or other similar acts, before?

Really, I'm not saying this isn't a horrific act, I've just never understood why the media was all over this case. This isn't the first time something like this has happened, and it certainly won't be the last.
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2004-11-12, 8:06 PM #14
People die every second in this world, many times unjustly. While I realize that as United State-ans we are bound to give him due process, I believe people are exerting too much energy on a case surrounding just 2 deaths.
2004-11-12, 8:26 PM #15
I never did understand why this murder case ever got into the media spotlight. Why exactly should the whole nation care about this particular case? I'm not saying that this isn't a tragedy but why do people involved in this case suddenly get the whole nation's attention while other cases but as tragic don't get any attention at all?
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2004-11-12, 8:38 PM #16
Every Morning I get up and get ready for school and watch about 15 minutes of news before i go off. The 15th minute of every show of Good Morning America is this stupid case. I am so sick of this idiot and it is obvious that he is the one who killed his wife. I think they need to just take him outside, shoot him, and go back in. (feeling vengeance like I just watched the punisher)
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2004-11-12, 8:48 PM #17
And thousands of miles away, a few Americans die every day... and dozens of people die every day. These people don't need to die? They don't ask to die. They're in a place called Iraq, where multiple murders of American kids take place every day. Why aren't we dragging and shooting the man responsible for this?
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2004-11-12, 8:58 PM #18
Do you write fictional stories Bill? You should, you seem to be good at making up completely unbelievable and gripping total and utter crap.
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2004-11-12, 9:12 PM #19
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Originally posted by Bill
And thousands of miles away, a few Americans die every day... and dozens of people die every day. These people don't need to die? They don't ask to die. They're in a place called Iraq, where multiple murders of American kids take place every day. Why aren't we dragging and shooting the man responsible for this?


Was is necessary for you to hijack the thread?
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2004-11-12, 9:17 PM #20
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Originally posted by LonelyDagger
Do you write fictional stories Bill? You should, you seem to be good at making up completely unbelievable and gripping total and utter crap.


I do actually. I wrote a fictional story about a guy in Iraq with nukes... I would tell a little more of the plot that I made up, but I wouldn't want to hijack anymore, since this thread has nothing to do with politics... the point, though, was that we put so much stock in the death of 2 people... a wife and daughter, when hundreds of people are killed every day.
>>untie shoes
2004-11-12, 9:21 PM #21
Quote:
Originally posted by LonelyDagger
Do you write fictional stories Bill? You should, you seem to be good at making up completely unbelievable and gripping total and utter crap.


Yes. I'm completely sure the 1000+ death toll of our US soldiers is completely fictional and total crap. Yes, that has to be it, why on earth would there be so many unhappy families in America otherwise? Why on earth would every major news program be telling you about it if it was total crap?

Man, who knows....
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2004-11-12, 9:25 PM #22
OJ all over again.. There a glove in evidance? Or wait better yet... A stalker? Man.. If he is innocent.. Which is doubtfull.. Why waste the perfect life he could of had? God willing I am going to be happy, in love and have children.. Maybe not in my 30's... But in my early tweentys.. Yeah.. I know.. lol.. :P..
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2004-11-12, 9:27 PM #23
OJ all over again? Maybe I'm misinterpreting this, but it looks like you're defending OJ... That man was guilty as hell.
>>untie shoes
2004-11-12, 10:53 PM #24
Quote:
Originally posted by Bill
And thousands of miles away, a few Americans die every day... and dozens of people die every day. These people don't need to die? They don't ask to die. They're in a place called Iraq, where multiple murders of American kids take place every day. Why aren't we dragging and shooting the man responsible for this?

I knew Iraq was going to be mentioned by someone. I bloody knew it.
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2004-11-12, 10:58 PM #25
Quote:
Originally posted by Bill
And thousands of miles away, a few Americans die every day... and dozens of people die every day. These people don't need to die? They don't ask to die. They're in a place called Iraq, where multiple murders of American kids take place every day. Why aren't we dragging and shooting the man responsible for this?


We aren't dragging them because they have guns. We ARE shooting them though, so rest at ease. :)
2004-11-12, 11:05 PM #26
I'll double check this, but I'm pretty sure Scott Peterson got on national tv asking for help in finding his missing wife. Meanwhile, he was trying to hook up with another woman whom he didnt want to tell that his wife was missing. It gained the attention of the nation because Scott made it known to the entire nation on his own.
2004-11-12, 11:06 PM #27
Weird.
2004-11-12, 11:14 PM #28
I just wanted to point something out here. I'm not saying he's innocent, but I am saying what they pulled with the jury was totally SCREWED UP. Here's what happened:

Trial was over, went to jury for a guilty/not guilty ruling. After about a week or so they came back and said they were having trouble making an agreement (it has to be 100% of the jury says he's guilty to make a conviction).

So the judge throws out one jury member and replaces her with an "alternate." Then tells them to keep deliberating.

The next day, same thing, they are coming to a deadlock. So guess what?

THE DAMN JUDGE THROWS OUT ANOTHER JURER! He then tells them to start over with another "alternate."

Next day, they have a guilty verdict.

Now, I don't know about you, but if I was on trial for something I didn't do, I would sure as hell be pissed if 2 out of 9 people on the jury felt I was not guilty and the judge threw out those two and replaced them with people who said I was guilty. That is so freaking ridiculous I can't even stand it.
2004-11-12, 11:19 PM #29
Yeah...

Great justice system we have here, isn't it? :p
2004-11-13, 3:06 AM #30
Quote:
Originally posted by Brian
I just wanted to point something out here. I'm not saying he's innocent, but I am saying what they pulled with the jury was totally SCREWED UP. Here's what happened:

Trial was over, went to jury for a guilty/not guilty ruling. After about a week or so they came back and said they were having trouble making an agreement (it has to be 100% of the jury says he's guilty to make a conviction).

So the judge throws out one jury member and replaces her with an "alternate." Then tells them to keep deliberating.

The next day, same thing, they are coming to a deadlock. So guess what?

THE DAMN JUDGE THROWS OUT ANOTHER JURER! He then tells them to start over with another "alternate."

Next day, they have a guilty verdict.

Now, I don't know about you, but if I was on trial for something I didn't do, I would sure as hell be pissed if 2 out of 9 people on the jury felt I was not guilty and the judge threw out those two and replaced them with people who said I was guilty. That is so freaking ridiculous I can't even stand it.


Not only that, I'm not sure how the prosecution actually prooved anything. There didn't seem to be any hard evidence in this case that pointed at Peterson. Yeah, he was a womanizing *******, but I just don't see snything that linked him to the murder. All the evidence was circumstantial at best.*

*The above is not my opinion on the case by any means, just my interpretation of what has happened in the trial based on my reading an watching the news (I live in the Bay Area where the news coverage was very heavy).
Pissed Off?
2004-11-13, 6:18 AM #31
Barbarians. You kill each other and instead of mourning the tragedy, you want the state to satisfy your bloodlust by killing the offender...you must learn to deal with these people in your midst - punish them, but do not become them.
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2004-11-13, 7:42 AM #32
Well then call me Atilla the Hun cause I want his head... who gives a **** about civilzed behavior... people like this give up there rights in my opinion when they commit crimes like this.
2004-11-13, 7:47 AM #33
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Originally posted by Brian
I just wanted to point something out here. I'm not saying he's innocent, but I am saying what they pulled with the jury was totally SCREWED UP. Here's what happened:

Trial was over, went to jury for a guilty/not guilty ruling. After about a week or so they came back and said they were having trouble making an agreement (it has to be 100% of the jury says he's guilty to make a conviction).

So the judge throws out one jury member and replaces her with an "alternate." Then tells them to keep deliberating.

The next day, same thing, they are coming to a deadlock. So guess what?

THE DAMN JUDGE THROWS OUT ANOTHER JURER! He then tells them to start over with another "alternate."

Next day, they have a guilty verdict.

Now, I don't know about you, but if I was on trial for something I didn't do, I would sure as hell be pissed if 2 out of 9 people on the jury felt I was not guilty and the judge threw out those two and replaced them with people who said I was guilty. That is so freaking ridiculous I can't even stand it.


having just learned about all this through the link at the top of the page, my first impression is that this trial has been totally messed up and I for one wouldn't trust any outcome, the fact that the judge is refusing to discuss why he has dismissed the two juryers is...well, very fishy.

add to that there is no definate proof that i've been able to read of anywhere....

you can only come to a guilty conclusion when you have aliminated all resonable doubt, I can't see how that could be the case here...

and whats with all you guys wanting the death penatly, you know the only countries that have the death penatly are;

US
Bangladesh (only one sentence last year)
Botswana
Chad,
China,
Doha (only one sentence last year),
Iran,
Japan (only one sentence last year),
Jordan,
Saudi Arabia,
Singapore,
Thailand,
Uganda,
Vietnam,
Yemen,
Zimbabwe.

have a long look at that list, I for one wouldn't really like my country to be a part of that list, a good deal of those countries are dictatorships or run by a select few individuals and places like Japan, Doha and Bangladesh are on the verge of abolishing the death penatly.

move into the 21st century US, your the only western country that kills its own people in the name of justice.

I totally believe people should be punished for their crimes, it doesn't help that prisoners are often given a better standard of living in prisons than what they recieve outside and have access to lawyers, playstations, TV's etc..which some totally good working families cannot afford, therein lies my problems with the justice system, not just in the UK but elsewhere.

(some countries are not listed above as although they have the death penatly as an option have not used it in over 10 years and are considered "free" of the penatly)
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2004-11-13, 7:50 AM #34
Quote:
Originally posted by Avenger
Not only that, I'm not sure how the prosecution actually prooved anything. There didn't seem to be any hard evidence in this case that pointed at Peterson. Yeah, he was a womanizing *******, but I just don't see snything that linked him to the murder. All the evidence was circumstantial at best.*

*The above is not my opinion on the case by any means, just my interpretation of what has happened in the trial based on my reading an watching the news (I live in the Bay Area where the news coverage was very heavy).


I thought he convienently was fishing 90 miles from home and his wife was convienently found dead in a lake nearby about 90 miles from home. He showed he was a liar through his advances and relationship with the other woman, telling them "they could be together soon." Not to mention it took the defense 6 months to drag over 100 useless withnesses to the stand to try to prove something completely out there.
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2004-11-13, 1:03 PM #35
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Originally posted by James Bond
having just learned about all this through the link at the top of the page, my first impression is that this trial has been totally messed up and I for one wouldn't trust any outcome, the fact that the judge is refusing to discuss why he has dismissed the two juryers is...well, very fishy.

add to that there is no definate proof that i've been able to read of anywhere....

you can only come to a guilty conclusion when you have aliminated all resonable doubt, I can't see how that could be the case here...

and whats with all you guys wanting the death penatly, you know the only countries that have the death penatly are;

US
Bangladesh (only one sentence last year)
Botswana
Chad,
China,
Doha (only one sentence last year),
Iran,
Japan (only one sentence last year),
Jordan,
Saudi Arabia,
Singapore,
Thailand,
Uganda,
Vietnam,
Yemen,
Zimbabwe.

have a long look at that list, I for one wouldn't really like my country to be a part of that list, a good deal of those countries are dictatorships or run by a select few individuals and places like Japan, Doha and Bangladesh are on the verge of abolishing the death penatly.

move into the 21st century US, your the only western country that kills its own people in the name of justice.

I totally believe people should be punished for their crimes, it doesn't help that prisoners are often given a better standard of living in prisons than what they recieve outside and have access to lawyers, playstations, TV's etc..which some totally good working families cannot afford, therein lies my problems with the justice system, not just in the UK but elsewhere.

(some countries are not listed above as although they have the death penatly as an option have not used it in over 10 years and are considered "free" of the penatly)



Not only that, the US is one of only six countries in the world that executes criminals under the age of 18. (or rather, they execute criminals for crimes that took place when they were younger than 18, as the whole legal process to get them executed usually takes at least 10 years). The other countries in this prestigious group are Saudi Arabia, Iran, Yemen, Nigeria and Pakistan.

Also, the US is one of the few countries that execute the mentally ill.

The death penalty is useless, it does nothing to 'deter' criminals, if anything homocide rates have increased slightly with capital punishment. And really, capital punishment is punishment for those without capital. The provided attorneys are usually either awful or corrupt, or both, and so those in poverty are far more likely to be convicted of a crime they haven't committed. And I'm afraid the race issue is most poignant here too. Someone convicted of killing a white victim is four times as likely to recieve the death penatly as someone convicted of killing a non-white victim.
The US justice system is nowhere near good enough to implement the death penalty with any acceptable degree of accuracy. There was a dozen death row inmates that were proven innocent by some University law students.

The deep sociological effect the death penalty has is that it denies the intrinsic value of human life. Life is so precious that nobody should ever be killed, even by the state.
People can change. A murderer won't necessarily murder again. Some will change. Some won't, no, but it's not fair to execute those that would reform because of that.

I realise that capital punishment is caked in religious issues, but I'm purposefully trying to avoid those, as there are equally uninteresting arguments on both sides.
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2004-11-13, 1:18 PM #36
all i know is if she was my wife, as beautiful and kind as she was, you have to be one ****ed up individual to give that up... i would be so excited to have a kid not think that my lifestyle is ending. The reason this case got so much attetnion is because of the people involved, upper class, educated, white and both of high stature and appearence... its not some trailer trash case? that is my opinion and why it has gotten so much attention, because they deviate in a better way from the usual murder cases so there must be a better explanation for all of this...
2004-11-13, 2:18 PM #37
While I don't like the death penalty in some cases, I believe that in others it is warranted. There was a serial killer in South Carolina who killed dozens of people. He made his own personal graveyard for all of the people he murdered. He was finally caught and put in jail for good, and he killed again by blowing another inmate's head open with a bomb put in one end of a can-and-string phone (the thing kids make). He was executed, and I think rightly so. His simple existence threatened the lives of everyone around him.

A book about the guy.
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2004-11-13, 3:10 PM #38
Wow it seems like the whole world knows about this case. i thought it was local, i live like 20 mins from his home. :eek:
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2004-11-13, 7:32 PM #39
Things like murder typically don't stay too local to long.

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