I am appaled at the general attitude of Canadians after the election... This guy summed up what my thoughts are very well.

"The arrogant, self righteous attitudes being expressed by many Canadians (including journalists) about the presidential choice of over 59,000,000 Americans is breathtaking. It denotes a deep seated thought that my way of thinking is right so if you don't agree you must be stupid. This is the typical intolerant attitude of many liberals who can't fathom that there is another opinion beside their own.

Liberals in Canada are so blinded by the 'rightness' of their ideas that the thought that someone could not see life their way is almost impossible to fathom. Well, there are tens of millions of people who don't agree with gay marriage and have said so this week. Tens of millions who think George Bush can best protect them.

For we Canadians, who have consistently re-elected a Liberal party who wasted $2 billion on a gun registry, made our military the laughingstock of the western world, can't buy 4 submarines that work, had a leader investigated for unethical behaviour in his home riding, wasted hundreds of millions through HRDC and of course was responsible for ADSCAM, to criticize Americans for electing someone who represents their values is ludicrous."

I can't believe Canadians have the audacity to critisize Americans for voting for Bush, considering who we recently elected.

PS: I'm Canadian if that matters.

STFU at least we didn't invade Iraq.

Quite frankly, Canada wouldn't be able to invade any country if we tried.

Yeah, but everybody likes Canada - we'd invite you in for a drink!

Yeah we would

And that's why we can criticize them. Because we could elect a mentally challenged monkey as our PM and it wouldn't make a difference, but it seems the US has done just that, and putting the same administration that has been behind the disastrous events of the past 4 years is most definitely a bad idea, and it is completely fair the the rest of the world cry out against the election of such a bonehead as the most powerful man in the world, regardless of the politics in their own country.

*Giggles and thinks of Red Dwarf*

*Invites Mikus for a drink*

I'm Canadian, and I think we need more nukes.

i'm amazed how americans that voted for w can't see what we're griping about. and by we're i mean, canada, sweden, france, germany, australia, south africa, brazil... ehh... never mind, just get the list of countries provided by php and take out england and the US.

Don't bracket Engalnd in with the US, despite Tony Blair having a slack arse from having GWB's hand up it, we're still liberal, fab and groovy.

Nobody over here particularly likes the guy, mainly because of (a) the war and (b) his mixing of state and religion, particularly because he's a born again conservative. England as a nation is a-religious mostly.

Did you notice that this sentence makes no sense what-so-ever? According to Dictionary.com, a "liberal" is a person, who:



So, either that "guy" had no idea what he was talking about, or the person(s) he was referring to was, in fact, a conservative! For conservatives, as opposed to liberals, are:



Because they oppose change and anything different than their traditional values and idealogies, they think other opinions are wrong.

Well, of course the worst conservative in Finland might be almost a liberal in America, so you can very well argue I have no idea what I'm talking about. But it just didn't make sense.

I think it's funny how Mikus beat everyone else to immediately prove the original poster's point.

I didn't vote for Paul Martin, does that mean I can say what I want about W? :p

I would have preferred Kerry to be in office over Bush, but I still think it demonstrates how childish some people are when, hearing the numbers that voted for Bush, exclaim, "How can those people be so stupid?!" Not to say that they have no right to criticize Bush, but it's quite immature to belittle people who support him as being idiots.

Some liberals thend to have an elitist view of their opinions and don't consider anyone else's valid. Not all of them, but they definitly exist. Ever group has people like that.

No one voted for Martin, he just kinda appeared in office one day and Chretien was gone so no one asked him to leave. On the other hand Americans have left a warmonger in power. What's worse, embezzling a little funds or killing thousands of innocent people, thousands of guilty people, and having many of your own soldiers die in a place they never should have been in?

Ummm... did you forget about the federal elections last summer? We DID vote him in.

Your opinion. More than half the US disagrees with you.

While they did vote for Bush, I seriously doubt that more than half the US believe in the war in Iraq.

Perhaps, but more than half see the need to complete the action in Iraq, which means keeping troops there for the time being.

I'll agree with that.

Sure "elections" Like we really have those in Canada

I fully believe that they really should complete the operation in Iraq, but leaving this administration in power with it's "War of Terror" just makes me wonder who will be next.

WTF are you talking about?

There's more countries you'd have to remove than US and Britain. You'd also have to remove Portugal, Denmark, Norway, The Netherlands, Iceland, Italy, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Slovenia, Croatia, numerous Pacific Islands, Hungary, Albania, Macedonia, Romania, Bulgaria, Turkey, Japan, South Korea, Singapore, the Philippines, Afghanistan, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, Georgia, the Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Solomon Islands, Mongolia, Palau, Tonga, Thailand, El Salvador, Colombia, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Dominican Republic, Israel, New Zealand, Kuwait, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Uganda, Rwanda, Angola, and you would have to take out Australia(this is very evident from the last elections). This isn't counting the 12 other countries that are reported to support the war in Iraq, but have done so in confidence.

Hell, even Canada has forces in Iraq even though they don't support the war. 2 frigates plus the 31 exchange officers.

The only reason the liberals/anti-war people in general seem larger in number than the conservatives/pro-war people in general is because the latter has no reason to speak up, seeing as how they like what is going on, and the former has nothing to do but speak up. The Vietnam War and Nixon proved this much.


lassev: do not mix the dictionary definitions of liberal and conservative with the political definitions. They do not mean the same thing.

Iran

I dunno I'm just screwing around. Our politics are a joke and no one cares.

:p

It's funny how you say Canadians are arrogant, yet Americans have been arrogant towards the rest of the world for how long? It's practically common knowledge that Americans are generally arrogant, as well as not having much of the world like them, eventhe countries they are allied with.

Canadians have a right to complain, becuase not only are they seeing the Bush Administration from another angle, which living in a close but separate country tends to do, but what America does, greatly affects us as well.


I'd like to point out to you though that it's not only Canada which is complaining... So I wouldn't single out just us.

Exactly what I was going to say. It's ignorant to do this, as it doesn't really mean politically what it means...diction...arially...or something.

And Temp--don't generalize. I'm American, and I seriously take offense to what you say about us in that we're "arrogant and don't listen to the rest of the world". We do listen. If we didn't, we'd just sit on our thumbs and watch the world pass us by. We're the only country that can actively change anything that happens in the world. So we try, for better, or for worse, we try

Uh... stereotype? Don’t get me wrong--there are arrogant Americans. And yes, the current administration’s attitude and behaviors have been very arrogant. However, don’t get the administration confused with the people. Lots of us are just as frustrated as you are with those with arrogant attitudes. Or is that what you meant?

(Also, as a disclaimer I would like to clarify that supporting Bush doesn’t automatically make you arrogant, I certainly did not want that to seem implied)

Yea thats kinda what i meant. Moreso though, Americans have that general image with most other people already, which is what i really meant.

Like when the whole world said "Don't go into Iraq and start raping their country for no reason" you really listened.

I think it's funny how you make random stupid posts that have no point or basis in fact.

I'll play devils advocate: what does the US owe to the rest of the world that is non-coalition? What have they done for us lately that we should do everything that they tell us to? We do listen and we do care, but it wasn't Canada's buildings that got attacked. Although hussein wasn't part of al-queda, we believed at the time that he had weapons that could fall into al queda hands ,and thast was enough of a threat to warrant action.

Uh...you're missing the "whole" part of the world. But since the majority of these aren't powerful western countries, their opinions don't matter. Right? Or are you going to pull the card that America bullied these poor, defeneseless companies that are so reliant on American consumerism into supporting Iraq? You're one to talk about arrogance.

Also, I don't recall rape being part of the U.S. perogative...

Wow that was a fast edit, I clicked reply and it came up with your editted post while I was still looking at the other one.

No one ever believed that Iraq had any terrorist intentions, the US invented that allogation, provided no proof, and now it has been proven false. It's not about "owing" the rest of the world anything, it's about not going somewhere you don't belong and ruining people's ****.

You missed the entire jist of my making that list.

Let me put it this way: WE'RE ON THE SAME SIDE IN THIS ARGUMENT!

My post was in response to Mikus' post -- the reason I quoted you was to give credit to the person who assembled the list.

I love how people whine about ****, but are too apathetic (or is it cowardly?) to actually try and change things. You know, for being such an 'advanced' culture, we're pretty ****ing stupid.

Oh shut the **** up. Because you know, we as Americans foresaw that when we elected Bush, and therefore had any affect on how it happened.