I do, for the most part. It just makes sense to me that in order for things to go on, there must be some sort of predestined path; a future, a fate...

yeh. so what do you think?

I believe in God.

[But as for how fate factors into that equation, I believe God has a plan for each one of our lives, but it is up to us to institute that plan into our lives. In other words, God knows exactly what's going to happen, before you even do it, but the choice still lies with you as to which path you choose.]

....will it be the light side

or the quick and easy path to the dark-side...

>.>

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i believe in mother nature and she'll take me out in a heartbeat if i'm not carefull.
that *****! ha!

I'm with Daft_Vader here. I, too believe in God, and the whole concept that Daft wrote. He already said it well enough, so I won't bother to repeat it. Good work, Daft.

I have never witnessed fate at work, so I must say no. Until there's evidence that it exists, I will place it on my shelf of other fairy tales, along with Santa Clause, ghosts, and other supernatural forces. Fate works well in fairy tales and movies, but that's because it's entertaining, not because it has any measurable impact.

I make my own fate.

Well, I don't know. I don't know enough about how random subatomic particles and the like are, but it seems to me that everything is happening due to cause and effect, so there's probably really only one way things can go. So i guess you could call that fate. It doesn't really matter though, it's not significant.

Seeing as my name is not Neo, I cannot answer that question.

Heheheh, I like your style.

I'd say I believe in karma. Nice guys (and gals) may finish last, but they finish well

Sorry, it's my fate not to contribute anything useful or substantive to this thread.

Sorry.

I agree, except I'd put it next to Santa Claus because I dont want Tim Allen anywhere near my shelving.

I kind of do. I think if someone is destined to do something, they will end up doing that, but I believe the way they get their is their own path.

So Bill Clinton was destined to become president, so he did? That makes no sense to me. More like, "Hey look. Clinton's president. He must have been destined." See, that way there's no proof. Which is why it seems bogus.

Not really what I was thinking. There are just some people who end up doing something and it's the absolute perfect fit fot them. Everything is just right for them. In cases like that, I look at it as some sort of fate.

Hahaha, you can't be serious.

Don't believe in fate, I live my life the way I think is best.

This seems like an odd thing to say. So some people are governed by fate, and others, what? aren't good enough?

To me, fate would suggest god, so no.

I think fate is a great concept in literature and movies, arts in general, but it has little to do with the real world. It can be argued some people seem to be fated to become politicians, some policemen, some criminals, some behave as if they had been born to become businessmen, but I think that's just a clever trick of the nature of those people and the surrounding environment. When looking back at the life of many prominent figures it may seem like they lived their whole life just aiming at the important deeds they ended up doing, but I think that's a vast oversimplification of their entire lives.

I dont like the idea that everything is predetermined. It's nice to think that we can make our own choices, and that there is such a thing as chance.

So no, I dont believe in fate.

I like to think that I'm in charge of my own destiny.

It's the very same as the "free will" debate. There's no way we have free will (it seems like we do, but our every action is governed entirely by the laws of physics), and thus our future is set (i.e. predictable given enough computing power), and therefore this is what I call "fate".

Depends what you mean by fate.

Everything is predetermined by the way things are. Example, if you ask me to choose between the left door and the right door, and I choose the left door, then it was inevitable that I would choose the left door, there was just no way of knowing it. Who I am and what I am are the electrical impulses in my brain that made me pick the left door. If I had been someone else, a different thought process might have occured in my head and I might have picked a different door. If you flip a coin, the result is never random. We just say it is, because we humans aren't sophisticated enough to be able to determine which side it will fall on. What really determines heads or tails is which side it was on when it was thrown, the force of gravity, air resistance, the angle, the force it was thrown with, heck, even the weight of the little carvings on it's surface. So, if you had thrown the same coin the exact same way with the same force at the same angle, it would always fall on the same side, and there is no possible way that the coin could fall on the other side.

I'm destined to die alone.

/me marries Detty

That is not your fate, young one

*fixed*

if(getThingFlags(source) & 0x8){
  do her}
elseif(getThingFlags(source) & 0x4){
  do other babe}
else{
  do a dude}

I'd rather be in control of my life, thankyerveymuch.

No, but I like her green eyes.

fate or no, life is random

I believe that everything is on a set course. Obviously, we don't (generally) know what that course is, and because we don't know, it would seem we are in charge of our own fate. But all paths lead to the same destination: death. Some are long paths, some are short, some are exciting, some are boring. The only way to choose a different path is to know which one you're already on. Unless you know that, how can you change it?

Mind you, I believe in God, and so I believe it can be altered if He somehow intervenes. Even minor, subtle, unnoticeable alterations can drastically change the outcome. Unfortunately, it can be altered by those who engage in witchcraft practices, mainly in the area of fortelling the future. I seriously don't think it's a good idea for humans to learn these things by themselves. We can barely live in the present successfully, much less the future.



So in summary: yes.

I make my choices, I do what I see fit, there is no fate but what we make for ourselves

I agree with daft

Life is random. We can not control our own fate. It made me laugh (well, more of snicker) each time someone has said they control their own fate. You can't control your own fate. You can't even control your own body. You can't control yor breathing, your heartbeat. If we can control our own fate, why isn't everyone rich and happy? Why do people die in automobile accidents? Why do people get cancer? We can't control our own life. There is very little we do control. Sure, we control what we have for breakfast, and other minor trivialities, but the big things in life, we have no control over. Why don't we have control? Because we can't control other people. Other people change our life; they alters our plans, and we are forced to adapt or lose. We can't control sickness or disease. We can't control ecnomies or religions. We can't control very much at all.

You can control your reaction to "fate", but not "fate" itself. Life happens; you've got to roll with it.

Bad day, Hellequin? :p

I think he's losing control...