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FFXI... help me decide
2004-11-23, 5:56 AM #1
i'm about 85% sure i'll be buying FFXI when i get paid this weekend.
now, i would like some info on the classes and races... and any advice you all have for newbies. screenies of your characters would be cool :D i'm in love with the visual style of this game and i haven't even played it hehe

thanks
"*quickly adds in disclaimer that Is may still yet end up being slapped with a white glove, as all women are crazy and there are no rules*" --mavispoo
2004-11-23, 7:20 AM #2
WoW does come out today...any particular reason in not getting that instead?
D E A T H
2004-11-23, 7:22 AM #3
OH FOR [insert a bloody important person here]'S SAKE

GIVE ANSWERS, NOT WITTY RESPONSES.

:rolleyes:
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2004-11-23, 7:29 AM #4
hehe s'alright Niku/FGR ;)

i just don't see WoW being very fun for me... i have very specific ideas about fantasy worlds (=

not to mention FFXI is cheaper... and sexier... hehe
"*quickly adds in disclaimer that Is may still yet end up being slapped with a white glove, as all women are crazy and there are no rules*" --mavispoo
2004-11-23, 9:18 AM #5
Well, I've been playing for about two months on Kujata, and I've been enjoying it. I took Black Mage and have been subbing Red... Screenies will be when I get some nicer kit.

Advice:

Don't ask for cash.
Read the manual while the bugger's patching.
Expect to be everyone's <girl woof woof> if you take white mage.
Stick to /tell.
You are mediocre until 40.
Try not to get over your head.
If you're a warrior, try to keep your main armour within five levels of your main (supposedly).
The auction house is a godsend.
Read the manual.
Hey, Blue? I'm loving the things you do. From the very first time, the fight you fight for will always be mine.
2004-11-23, 9:59 AM #6
<girl woof woof> hehehe

thanks tony ;)
it really looks like an awesome game... i'm not sure what class i'll play. probably experiment a bit.

i assume that /tell is the ingame PM system, right?
"*quickly adds in disclaimer that Is may still yet end up being slapped with a white glove, as all women are crazy and there are no rules*" --mavispoo
2004-11-23, 12:06 PM #7
I have two supervisors at work that are obsessed with this game. It's kind of sad but funny at the same time.
"Those ****ing amateurs... You left your dog, you idiots!"
2004-11-23, 2:26 PM #8
Yup. And although you can change your job, your race is for life.
Hey, Blue? I'm loving the things you do. From the very first time, the fight you fight for will always be mine.
2004-11-23, 6:05 PM #9
what times of day do you play Tony? i hope to get the game this weekend... maybe some shop will have it on sale the day after thanksgiving ;)
"*quickly adds in disclaimer that Is may still yet end up being slapped with a white glove, as all women are crazy and there are no rules*" --mavispoo
2004-11-23, 6:07 PM #10
Quote:
Originally posted by FastGamerr
OH FOR [insert a bloody important person here]'S SAKE

GIVE ANSWERS, NOT WITTY RESPONSES.

:rolleyes:


Witty? It was a question, jeez. It really was just a legitimate question. No idea why you're jumping all over me though.

Anyways--good luck with FFXI. Hopefully the worldpass system doesn't ever interfere with your playage :)
D E A T H
2004-11-23, 6:08 PM #11
Please, do post your characters, I've seen little to nothing about this game as far as graphics and characters go.

As well, what's the monthly fee? 12 bucks a month, and is there a one time yearly fee you can pay, as well? I'd probably get it for PC, since I couldn't stand to plug my PS2 into the internet.

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2004-11-23, 6:09 PM #12
Is_907... Have you read Digital Fortress by Dan Brown?
2004-11-23, 9:03 PM #13
Mikus: yeah... but the quote in my sig i knew before i read it ;)
i'm not a big dan brown fan... his work is so-so, i guess.

yeah, someone please post a character shot :D
"*quickly adds in disclaimer that Is may still yet end up being slapped with a white glove, as all women are crazy and there are no rules*" --mavispoo
2004-11-24, 7:15 AM #14
something interesting about WoW and EQ2:
http://www.inktank.com/
i'm sure many of you have read it already... it doesn't directly relate to FFXI but it does relate to current MMO games
"*quickly adds in disclaimer that Is may still yet end up being slapped with a white glove, as all women are crazy and there are no rules*" --mavispoo
2004-11-24, 7:18 AM #15
Well, I'm generally on Brit times, but on weekends, I'm generaly on late-ish, about 7 PST or whatever. Always earlier, sometimes later.

And I'll see about screenies. You want a worldpass for my server, or you wanna wait until Fishstickz offers?

Monthly fee is, I think, $13.95 or something, which is about £8.50 a month, paid at the start of the month.
Hey, Blue? I'm loving the things you do. From the very first time, the fight you fight for will always be mine.
2004-11-24, 9:48 AM #16
$12.95 here, iirc
i have a friend already playing and he wants me on his server ;) (he's also a brit heh)
"*quickly adds in disclaimer that Is may still yet end up being slapped with a white glove, as all women are crazy and there are no rules*" --mavispoo
2004-11-24, 11:37 AM #17
I have 3 characters on the Bahamut server

My first was a tarutaru. I got him to level 22 as a black mage, and 20 as a white mage. Being a black mage was lots of fun, but I wanted to try some melee classes, and tarutaru aren't good for that sort of thing.

My second character was an elvaan. He's a level 54 dragoon. Don't pick elvaan unless you want to be a paladin. They have very low dexterity, which is essential for most melee classes, and very low MP, which is essential for all spellcasting classes. Furthermore, elvaan get no respect >_<
Also, don't pick dragoon. At higher levels you won't get any party invites, because people will pick higher-damaging classes over dragoon for their party, such as a ranger or a black mage. I had a lot of fun playing a dragoon, and it IS a really cool class, but everyone else thinks it sucks, so you won't get party invites, and therefore, can't level up.

My current character is a hume. Since I was disappointed with my limited ability to change classes as a tarutaru and elvaan, I picked hume because they have balanced stats and can excel at any class. I had also been frustrated with not having enough money, so I made him a thief, and I'm a level 30 thief/ninja right now, and have been enjoying it a great deal.

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Here's a breakdown of the classes you can be:

Standard Jobs: These jobs you have available to you in the beginning of the game

- Black Mage: They deal damage, and lots of it. Blowing stuff up with elemental spells is great fun. Black mages are highly desirable in every party, especially at higher levels. Moderately expensive when you have to buy the higher level spells. Best race for this is tarutaru, second best is hume. Any other race for a black mage is a joke. Best subjob is white mage.

- Monk: These guys specialize in martial arts. I only leveled monk to 15 as a subjob for my warrior, and I've never partied with a high level monk, so I don't have much to say about them, aside from the fact that leveling monk to 15 was quite boring, and I've heard that they get pretty powerful at higher levels.

- Red Mage: Red mage kinda sucks until higher levels. They're a hybrid job, in that they can wear medium armor, use swords, and cast both black and white magic. But they're not as good at magic as either a black mage or a white mage, and they're melee power is a joke. Basically until as a red mage, your job until level 41 is to help the white mage heal, and weaken the enemy with enfeebling magic so that the damage dealing jobs can kill the it more easily. However at higher levels, the red mage gets two essential abilities: refresh, which when cast on another mage gradually refills their MP, and convert, which swaps the Red Mage's MP and HP. So when the red mage gets low on MP, they can convert, making their HP low and MP high, and then heal themselves. This allows the red mage to keep their own MP full, as well as the MP of the other people in the party, making them a very popular choice for parties at higher levels.

- Thief: Until level 15, the thief is basically a really crappy warrior. At 15 they get backstab, which is lots of fun, and Treasure Hunter, which increases the chance of rare items dropping. At 30 they get Trick attack, which allows the thief to focus hate on the tank, which makes them popular in parties. At 45 they get Treasure Hunter II, which makes them money-making machines. Thieves also can pick the locks on chests, and have an ability that increases the amount of money that monsters drop. So if you like money, by a thief. Dexterity is very important for a thief, so mithra is the best race. But mithras are all female, so if you don't want to play a female character like me, pick hume.

- Warrior: Warriors are the tanks until higher levels. At level 5 they get the "Provoke" ability, allowing them to focus the hate on themselves. But at higher levels they can't generate enough hate because they do crappy damage, so the monsters end up killing off the mages. Warrior is basically only used as a subjob for melee classes, and is essential for paladins, for the provoke ability.

- White Mage: Not only popular, but almost absolutely necessary in every party at any level. White mages heal the group, 'nuff said. They also can raise fallen comrades at level 25, and get teleport spells at 37, allowing them to teleport the entire party to one of six different areas spread out around the world, make travel much faster. If you pick white mage, you'll rarely have trouble finding a party.

Advanced jobs: These jobs you have to unlock by doing a quest that's available at level 30

- Bard: Performs the same functions as a red mage, basically. Their most important songs at higher levels refill the party's MP. Bards usually have little trouble finding a party at any level.

- Beastmaster: The only class that has a viable solo career. Every other class almost always requires a party of six people to do well with getting experience. Beastmasters tame monsters and use them to do their fighting. I've never seen a beastmaster in a party, so if you like playing by yourself, pick beastmaster.

- Dark Knight: Moderate damage dealing class. They use scythes and can cast some black magic. I don't recommend Dark Knight, because they are overpopulated, so you'll be competing with lots of other people to join parties, not to mention the fact that people will pick ranger or black mage over you if they are available.

- Dragoon: Has the same basic job as Dark Night, only they use lances and have pet wyverns that fight alongside them. I don't recommend dragoon for reasons mentioned above.

- Ninja: I haven't partied with any higher level ninjas, so I'm not sure what their role is. They can wield two weapons, and they're fast and agile but don't do much damage. Ninja is mainly used as a subjob for warrior, thief, and ranger, because it lets them wield two weapons.

- Paladin: Absolutely essential at higher levels, less essential but highly desirable at lower levels. This class is the best tank in the game. They have great defense, and white magic, and are great at keeping the hate on themselves. If you pick paladin you'll never have problems finding a party

- Ranger: Uses ranged weapons, bows, crossbows, and guns. Highest-damaging class in the game, but incredibly expensive to maintain. If you pick ranger, you'll need a good way to make money

- Samurai: Use great katanas, these guys are skillchain masters. They have abilities that refill their TP, or tech points, which allow them to do multiple weapon skills in a short amount of time. I haven't partied with many high level samurais though, and I've never leveled one myself.

- Summoner: They summon the avatars (or espers, guardian forces, summons, whatever) from the other games. You'll get to use shiva, ifrit, carbuncle, fenrir, garuda, and titan to fight for you. I've never partied with a summoner at higher levels, so I don't know what they do, but at lower levels they basically just use white mage as a subjob and act as the party's healer, because they have a crapload of MP.
Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.
2004-11-24, 11:42 AM #18
Sheesh, that post was longer than I thought it was going to be.
Anyway, are you planning on picking your class first, or your race? Let me know and I can give recommendations on what the best jobs are for the race you pick, or the best race for the job you pick. Here's info on the five races: http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/races.html
Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.
2004-11-24, 11:56 AM #19
Pic of me in a party, at pretty crappy resolution. I'm Antonov.
Hey, Blue? I'm loving the things you do. From the very first time, the fight you fight for will always be mine.
2004-11-24, 9:33 PM #20
awesome. thanks cyggy :D
i'm leaving town for thanksgiving... i'll get in touch with you guys when i get back saturday night.

ciao
"*quickly adds in disclaimer that Is may still yet end up being slapped with a white glove, as all women are crazy and there are no rules*" --mavispoo
2004-11-25, 1:54 PM #21
Waark.
Hey, Blue? I'm loving the things you do. From the very first time, the fight you fight for will always be mine.
2004-11-25, 2:00 PM #22
http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=96

Lol, that site has a"guide" for almost every popular game. Waiting to see the WoW one that'll surely appear in a week or so.
Wake up, George Lucas... The Matrix has you...
2004-11-26, 8:40 AM #23
heh, vgcats is a great series... that especially is a good one :)
"*quickly adds in disclaimer that Is may still yet end up being slapped with a white glove, as all women are crazy and there are no rules*" --mavispoo
2004-11-26, 11:22 AM #24
It seems that there are more VGCats ones on FF XI than any other game... Here's the rest of the FF XI ones:
Wake up, George Lucas... The Matrix has you...
2004-11-26, 11:23 AM #25
Heh I love the vgcats... so funny.

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