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I'm amazed, and on the verge of hatred
2004-11-29, 4:50 PM #1
So I'm doing a project for AP English, about a poem called "Barbie Doll" by Marge Piercy (An amazing writer, albeit a feminist, but nonetheless, an amazing writer), and when looking for yearly statistics of Anorexia, I stumble upon a mass of websites detailing the many ways one can become anorexic, why one would do so, and so on. There are literal FAN SITES for the social disorder. I can understand not being able to control one's self, and I can understand being able to blame it on society, etc. What I can't believe is that you'd be so inclined as to join a web forum dedicated to, no, not coping with the illness, not even excepting the illness while trying to get over it, but actually joining a web forum for the sheer sake of discussing the "art" of starving ones self. I'm wholly disgusted, and ready to go on a genocide campaign.

Listen to some of the reasonings this girl has on her website:

Quote:
People won't pause then say "You're not fat, just...big boned."
It won't be so awkward when I walk.
My brother will only use the word fat in a sarcastic manner.
I will finaly be the skinny girl.
I won't feel so inferrior next to Irena.
My dad won't look at me in discust when I eat.
I will be able to fit in to the $60 jeans that I bought that are a size 7.
Even if the camera adds 20 pounds I'll still look amazing.
People will ask how I maintain my weight.
My fat won't bulge out when I sit down.
My belly button ring wouldn't hurt so much.
I wouldn't feel as hot and sweaty as I usualy do during the summer.
Guys will stop staring at my breasts and start looking at my legs.
I'll be able to fit in to a size 1.
Clothes will look great at me.
I can honestly laugh about the time my best guy friend scream "Eww! You're fat!" Upon seeing my gut while sitting down.
I will be light on my feet.
Confidence can be something I actualy have.
All clothes will look great on me.
Mini skirts won't be a taboo.
When compairing weights with other girls I won't always have the highest.
People will be amazed.
I won't be so ****ing average.


I honestly wonder if these sites are satyrs, but the fact that there are so many, and are all so gruesome... I don't know, it just doesn't seem very sane. I know anorexia is a social disorder, but it still doesn't take away from the shame, as well as mental capacity that one would normally have.

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2004-11-29, 4:56 PM #2
They're real sites, unfortunately. People will do extreme things to make themselves feel attractive.
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2004-11-29, 5:01 PM #3
Like go on shows titled "The Swan".
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2004-11-29, 5:02 PM #4
That's another thing, but you won't see me arguing reality TV shows any time soon: It'd just turn into a reality TV show.
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2004-11-29, 5:06 PM #5
Quote:
Originally posted by jEDIkIRBY

I honestly wonder if these sites are satyrs


Yup, the sites are in fact half goat ;)

But all kidding aside, the North American culture is completely retarded, I know a lot of girls that are ridiculously skinny who complain they're too fat, yet I can circle their wrists with my thumb and index finger with absolutely no problem.
2004-11-29, 5:06 PM #6
I agree it's sickening. I first heard about it in 9th grade Health class. But hey, you can't stop them, so nothing much you can do. :\

Also, I find it somewhat funny that mr. Typo is in AP English. ;)
D E A T H
2004-11-29, 5:08 PM #7
The people that make the websites are anorexics themselves, and are making these websites to make themselves feel what they are doing is right.
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2004-11-29, 5:10 PM #8
I may have a spelling disability, but my love for writing and sentance function go pretty deep. I'm well known at my school for my excel in writing and reading, and I've been in a 12th grade english class every year I've been at my high-school.

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2004-11-29, 5:16 PM #9
I'm glad you brought this up jedikirby. I agree I think The Swan is a bad show and of course anorexia and bulimia are sad things but I've known people who have them.

The size for a woman's beauty now a days sadly is size 1 which is disgusting, I'd never want to be that skinny. Personally I think I'm avg, yes I admit I could lose a few lbs, and that's what i'm doing, but for my sisters wedding and for me. I weighed 145 I am currently 142 and my goal weight is to get to 120. even at that weight I will not be a size one and I would never hope to be. I want to be healthy and happy is all. but in this day and age beauty is measured by how much your bones stick out and what color your hair is (most of the time it's preferred blonde).

Well I'm proud to be my size, I'm proud to be an american of puerto rican heritage, and i'm proud to be brunette (although at times I have fun and go red, it's just spicier). Anywho yeah it's pretty sad how people are judged now a days, and I know it's not only women and I think I heard that men have been increasingly getting eating disorders as well, it's a shame. [/end rant]

Laura
2004-11-29, 5:16 PM #10
How can you take 4 grade 12 english courses? Don't they count as repeats, or do you mean like: media, writer's craft, etc?
2004-11-29, 5:16 PM #11
*cackles maniacally while looking at the spelling*

<3
D E A T H
2004-11-29, 5:20 PM #12
She should add:
"I can be a superficial b***h like all the other girls"
and
"I can obssess over my hair instead of my weight"
to her list.

Notice there's nothing like "Will be more healthy" or "will have more confidence"

I hope she starves to death, and the rest of them too.
2004-11-29, 5:22 PM #13
And I didn't spell check the above post just for you, DJ.

Anyway, Yeah, I took 3 Creative writing classes, a Brit Lit class, and now the AP english. I'll finally be taking a normal english next semester with English 11, but that's only because it's required by the state. Otherwise, I've never seen a day of any normal english classes. No, that's not why I spell bad Mr. Yoshi.

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2004-11-29, 5:36 PM #14
I think obesity is a bigger problem than anorexia. ho ho ho.
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2004-11-29, 5:37 PM #15
Sure it's a bigger problem, because it's more common (I'm on the verge of obese) but.. Obese people have a better chance of getting nailed than people who look like they'll collapse into themselves.
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2004-11-29, 5:37 PM #16
I've taken 2 creative writing classes, one taught me jack squat, the other was informative, but really, all you can do is develop your own style. Writing helps, but in the end, it's up to you. Once I find the inspiration, and the right story, I'm going to start a story, which will probably end up being more like a book. I have so much pent up ideas, thoughts, things that I want to express... Let's just say I'm waiting for the right thing to write about.

I've always been one of the best writers in my school, if not the best, though I suck at MLA, Essays and Fiction of any sort get ***** by me. My 6th grade teacher told me I was definitely the best writer she had ever had in her career as a teacher and she had been teaching for 30 years.

Too bad I hate homework, and usually end up with a B if I'm lucky in my Honors English classes. It'd be worse for me in regular english though--more work, less learning. :\
D E A T H
2004-11-29, 5:47 PM #17
Quote:
Originally posted by Glyde Bane
Sure it's a bigger problem, because it's more common (I'm on the verge of obese) but.. Obese people have a better chance of getting nailed than people who look like they'll collapse into themselves.

I'm with you here, let's examine:

Fat people:
More cushion for the pushin'

Skeletons:
No amusing rhyme

Clearly chubb owns you.
2004-11-29, 6:48 PM #18
Quote:
Originally posted by BoricuaDelight
The size for a woman's beauty now a days sadly is size 1 which is disgusting, I'd never want to be that skinny. Personally I think I'm avg, yes I admit I could lose a few lbs, and that's what i'm doing, but for my sisters wedding and for me. I weighed 145 I am currently 142 and my goal weight is to get to 120. even at that weight I will not be a size one and I would never hope to be. I want to be healthy and happy is all. but in this day and age beauty is measured by how much your bones stick out and what color your hair is (most of the time it's preferred blonde).
I totally agree. I'm absolutely appalled by some of the @$$hole guys I've seen call chicks fat behind their back, when they're nowhere close. They consider a tiny gut "fat." While technically it is, it's a long way from obesity. And it's these kinds of things that have potential to cause girls to develop such eating disorders. I'm sorry, but the majority of guys are idiots. And generally, they have more fat than the girl they degrade.

Tell me... is this what guys want?
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2004-11-29, 6:54 PM #19
Quote:
Originally posted by DogSRoOL
I totally agree. I'm absolutely appalled by some of the @$$hole guys I've seen call chicks fat behind their back, when they're nowhere close. They consider a tiny gut "fat." While technically it is, it's a long way from obesity. And it's these kinds of things that have potential to cause girls to develop such eating disorders. I'm sorry, but the majority of guys are idiots. And generally, they have more fat than the girl they degrade.

Tell me... is this what guys want?


Yup you officially have my respect <3 And sadly enough I think that pic is what most guys want, that's sick poor girl

Laura
2004-11-29, 6:57 PM #20
Quote:
Originally posted by DogSRoOL
Tell me... is this what guys want?


Of course it isn't, but that's no excuse to bring yourself to that level. "Oh, boys want it, therefore it must be true." No. I'm not taking the blame off, I just don't think it ends there. Yes, boys shouldn't call girls fat, now here's a chicken leg:

[http://www.fake-foods.com/Merchant2/images/fried-chicken-leg.jpg]
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2004-11-29, 7:08 PM #21
Quote:
Originally posted by DogSRoOL
Tell me... is this what guys want?


She almost looks the equalvalent of a poor starving Ethiopian child.
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2004-11-29, 7:08 PM #22
I personally think that a girl's face is her main asset. As long as she tries to keep in shape she usually ends up being not fat, and if she has a pretty face then she's got a chance, to me. And for some reason, all the girls whose faces I believe to be pretty are quite nice, caring, well-natured people.

Coincidence, eh?
D E A T H
2004-11-29, 7:10 PM #23
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2004-11-29, 7:19 PM #24
Quote:
Originally posted by jEDIkIRBY
Of course it isn't...
Then why do I hear so many guys call a perfectly fit girl 'fat?' I honestly think a lot teenage guys suffer from some serious vision impairment. Fortunately, I'm not one of them.
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2004-11-29, 7:29 PM #25
I think you suffer from that thing called 'lack of intelegence' surrounding you. Seriously, all the guys in our city are happy to see a nice fit girl who's nice and healthy.

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2004-11-29, 7:29 PM #26
Meh, those eating disorders are brutal. Obesity, to me, seems like a pretty idiotic problem as well. I've got an incredibly fast metabolism, and I'm incredibly skinny - I just don't seem to gain weight. Some people just have it in their genes to be fat or skinny - and while I'm trying to pack on a bit o' meat, it disgusts me to see sites like that and those 600 pound butterballs on every damn Maury episode.
2004-11-29, 7:40 PM #27
It says something negative about our society when girls forcibly starve themselves to conform to attractiveness "standards", the point when they are "accepted" by others. Teen society in general demands an almost unattainable level of perfection these days that I can't believe. I am diisgusted...
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2004-11-29, 7:41 PM #28
Believe it or not, a healthy woman should have a small gut. That's just the way the female body is meant to be. Having a flat stomach would mean being underweight. Funny how far off modern society is.
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2004-11-30, 10:10 AM #29
if a girl wants to be skinny due to a mental problem then let it happen, no problem of mine if it puts them in hospital... at least they have a good time in the progress.
2004-11-30, 10:23 AM #30
oh god, what idiots.
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2004-11-30, 10:26 AM #31
Quote:
Originally posted by DogSRoOL
I totally agree. I'm absolutely appalled by some of the @$$hole guys I've seen call chicks fat behind their back, when they're nowhere close. They consider a tiny gut "fat." While technically it is, it's a long way from obesity. And it's these kinds of things that have potential to cause girls to develop such eating disorders. I'm sorry, but the majority of guys are idiots. And generally, they have more fat than the girl they degrade.

Tell me... is this what guys want?


couldn't you put that down to the girl being a mentally insecure fool?
2004-11-30, 10:37 AM #32
Quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Stafford
if a girl wants to be skinny due to a mental problem then let it happen, no problem of mine if it puts them in hospital... at least they have a good time in the progress.


That's fine until it'sone of your friends of family members.
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2004-11-30, 10:42 AM #33
I hated watching one of my friend's not eating, in the end it was attention though, different case altogether really. I just told her to stfu and she started eating again, weird how people work.
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2004-11-30, 10:48 AM #34
i've got a good friend who suffers from bulimia.

changes nothing, i still think its entirely her decision to do whatever the hell she wants with her own body.
2004-11-30, 10:50 AM #35
Wow. Hell of a friend you are.
Pissed Off?
2004-11-30, 10:54 AM #36
nay lad, i just dont want to force my views and ideas on folk, judging from these sites it appears some people actually enjoy it.

same way some people love to self mutilate.... i have nothing against them doing it.
2004-11-30, 11:11 AM #37
Quote:
Originally posted by jEDIkIRBY
I think you suffer from that thing called 'lack of intelegence' surrounding you. Seriously, all the guys in our city are happy to see a nice fit girl who's nice and healthy.

JediKirby


Same here..

I've been told I look anorexic, though (6' @ 140lb) -- and I eat everything..between school and work, though, I have a tendency to skip meals.

I'm going to go home and eat now..lol
woot!
2004-11-30, 11:11 AM #38
gross.
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There is only passion
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Through strength I gain power
Through power I gain victory
Through victory my chains are broken
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2004-11-30, 12:11 PM #39
I would be anorexic if I wasnt a Cheez It-aholic. Seriously, I'm getting fat, I'm about to break 145lbs.

I would make such a great woman.....


/half satyr
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2004-11-30, 12:22 PM #40
Love to mutilate? It's just distorted pleasure, in the end it hurts more.
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