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Warner Bros up the creek?
2004-12-07, 1:23 PM #1
http://www.slccglobelink.com/news/2004/10/28/Entertainment/mother.Of.The.Matrix.Victorious-785067.shtml

I didn't even know they had been taken to court :confused: Did anyone else know anything about this?

The gist of it is that Sophia Stewart is accusing the Wachowski Brothers, Joel Silver, and Warner Bros. for copyright infringement and racketeering.

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Stewart filed her case in 1999, after viewing the Matrix, which she felt had been based on her manuscript, "The Third Eye," copyrighted in 1981. In the mid-eighties Stewart had submitted her manuscript to an ad placed by the Wachowski Brothers, requesting new sci-fi works.
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If she's successful she'll receive damages from The Matrix 1-3, as well as from Terminator 1-3. Altogether they grossed over 2.5 billion dollars, so that's gotta be a huge pay off :eek:
2004-12-07, 1:27 PM #2
matrix = good
sequels = bad
matricks = deserves to be crapped on then burned (apart from that part when cazor humped the tripod...)

Well if they really did use parts of her script and stuff for their movies, they deserve to be sued.
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2004-12-07, 1:27 PM #3
It'll settle out of court for a few million. There are cases like this all the time and they always settle.
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2004-12-07, 1:28 PM #4
Doesn't mention about why she's getting pay-offs Re: Terminator though....

I was curious about that bit! :)
2004-12-07, 1:38 PM #5
The Matrix ripped plots, terminology, and ideas off pretty much every single cyberpunk book in existence...
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2004-12-07, 1:41 PM #6
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Originally posted by Martyn
Doesn't mention about why she's getting pay-offs Re: Terminator though....

I was curious about that bit! :)

Yeah, they could've been a little more specific. Maybe it's the whole "machines rise up against humans" idea?
2004-12-07, 1:47 PM #7
But then she'd be trying to claim off things like I, Robot, and even Blade Runner (filmed '82, so after her thingy)...

Seems a touch crazy to me to just pick on those two trilogies. But I'm simple :)
2004-12-07, 1:48 PM #8
I, Robot is based on a much older Asimov story
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2004-12-07, 1:48 PM #9
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Originally posted by Martyn
But then she'd be trying to claim off things like I, Robot, and even Blade Runner (filmed '82, so after her thingy)...

Seems a touch crazy to me to just pick on those two trilogies. But I'm simple :)
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2004-12-07, 1:51 PM #10
A Brave New World was my idea! Huxley that *******!
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2004-12-07, 3:27 PM #11
"I" Wrote The Time machine
"I" wrote war of the worlds

Science fiction is MINE!!!

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2004-12-07, 3:33 PM #12
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According to court documentation, an FBI investigation discovered that more than thirty minutes had been edited from the original film, in attempt to avoid penalties for copyright infringement. The investigation also stated that "credible witnesses employed at Warner Brothers came forward, claiming that the executives and lawyers had full knowledge that the work in question did not belong to the Wachowski Brothers." These witnesses claimed to have seen Stewart's original work and that it had been "often used during preparation of the motion pictures."


Sounds pretty damning. Perhaps this explains why the sequels sucked so badly: the Wachowski Brothers had to come up with their own material instead of just ripping off this woman. :p
2004-12-07, 3:47 PM #13
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Originally posted by happydud
The Matrix ripped plots, terminology, and ideas off pretty much every single cyberpunk book in existence...
and sleeping beauty. anyone elce notice that one?
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2004-12-07, 4:02 PM #14
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Originally posted by Wuss
Sounds pretty damning. Perhaps this explains why the sequels sucked so badly: the Wachowski Brothers had to come up with their own material instead of just ripping off this woman. :p


Wouldn't surprise me, they killed off the only sequel villains that were interesting without giving them a chance. The Twins.
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2004-12-07, 4:08 PM #15
Interesting how it doesn't discuss how the terminator infringed on her idea. Why aren't they taking it to the supreme court?
2004-12-07, 4:16 PM #16
Isn't the supreme court just for criminal cases. I could be wrong I really have no idea.
2004-12-07, 4:29 PM #17
It's not in Canada, but if they don't at least have a supreme court equivalent for non-criminal cases America's legal system is more laughable than I have been led to believe.
2004-12-07, 4:39 PM #18
HAHA!

Those copyrights . . . for some people, they can be a pain in the butt.
2004-12-07, 4:49 PM #19
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Originally posted by Boco
matricks = deserves to be crapped on then burned (apart from that part when cazor humped the tripod...)


you can stop randomly bashing my free to download, didnt even need your view or waste of mega's bandwidth, STUDENT FILM. it wasnt supposed to be some oscary worthy performance. and i would just like it if you'd stop bringing it up in such a negative manner. this is the third time in the last two weeks from what ive seen.

anyways... blah.
2004-12-07, 5:28 PM #20
So anyone read this "Third Eye"? Is it really that similar to "the Matrix"?
2004-12-07, 5:32 PM #21
I'd give it an oscar ;)


anyway, everyone seems to hate the matrix sequels. I know im gonna get a lot of crap for this, but i actually enjoyed them. at first i was disappointed, but that was because i went into the movie expecting it to be the greatest thing in the world. Sure there are stupid parts, but it was an overall good experiance for me.
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2004-12-07, 5:47 PM #22
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Originally posted by Shadow89
I'd give it an oscar ;)


anyway, everyone seems to hate the matrix sequels. I know im gonna get a lot of crap for this, but i actually enjoyed them. at first i was disappointed, but that was because i went into the movie expecting it to be the greatest thing in the world. Sure there are stupid parts, but it was an overall good experiance for me.


yes. I liked the matrix sequels to. The only part i hated was the insanely long part it took for trinity to die when she had like 8 spikes in her heart. Along with the fact that when neo found out he said. "oh no" or something insanely korny.
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2004-12-07, 7:18 PM #23
Don't forget, the final fight sequence in The Matrix Revolutions was horribly ripped off from Dragonball Z and other anime

Swear to God I was waiting for one of them to throw the kamehameha.
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2004-12-08, 5:56 AM #24
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Originally posted by Shadow89
anyway, everyone seems to hate the matrix sequels. I know im gonna get a lot of crap for this, but i actually enjoyed them. at first i was disappointed, but that was because i went into the movie expecting it to be the greatest thing in the world. Sure there are stupid parts, but it was an overall good experiance for me.


The matrix sequels are good movies, but in comparison to the first Matrix they lack the original elements, similar to the deficiencies of the SW prequels in comparison to OT. Reloaded seemed to be an occasionally corny action movie more than a Matrix film.
2004-12-08, 6:04 AM #25
I think a lot of it ripped of "Ghost in the Shell." If not the pluging in to the net, then the scene where the agent and trinity are jumping rooftops and break the concrete by landing on it.
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2004-12-08, 6:52 AM #26
Then it ripped off LAIN's "wired" network.
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2004-12-08, 7:45 AM #27
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Originally posted by THRAWN
Don't forget, the final fight sequence in The Matrix Revolutions was horribly ripped off from Dragonball Z and other anime

Swear to God I was waiting for one of them to throw the kamehameha.


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2004-12-08, 8:38 AM #28
Quote:
Originally posted by Cazor
you can stop randomly bashing my free to download, didnt even need your view or waste of mega's bandwidth, STUDENT FILM. it wasnt supposed to be some oscary worthy performance. and i would just like it if you'd stop bringing it up in such a negative manner. this is the third time in the last two weeks from what ive seen.

anyways... blah.


Im sorry, I just like to poke fun at it
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