http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-14-71-m.html

Get rare imports and asia-only systems and controllers. I'm going to order the Crimson and Lemon Yellow Dual Shock II's. There's also rare PS2 systems that are different colors. Does anyone know if the modchip below will work on a Japanese system to play US games?

http://www.modchip.com/ps2/slidecard.htm

Check out the controllers if nothing else. You have your typical US ones, (solid) Black, (transparent) Slate Grey, Emerald, and Ocean Blue, plus translucent colors of Crimson Red, Lemon Yellow, Midnight Blue, Midnight Black, Crystal, plus a solid White color

I betcha you're going to get this thread locked soo....

N b4 teh L0ck!!1!!

Also....

Import systems have a lot of extra things to worry about, like, are you region 1 movies (from blockbuster, best buy, grandma's xmas gift) going to play on the PS2 you imported? Are your rented games or borrowed games from friends going to play at all? What about the memory card? Power adapter?

There's a big reason consoles are designed to be per region. If you need your imports and "backups," get the modchip, not the imported console.

WTF...

A mod chip would result in a multi-region console anyways.


That swap-magic thing looks awesome, I'm looking into a ModChip right now, and they're more expensive and require installation.

The way I see it, if you buy a console, it should be your right to mod it if you want to. You paid your own money for it, you can do what you want with it. Its yours.

Thats about as stupid as saying "Since I bought this gun, I am now allowed to go kill people."

no, its like buying a car and being told that I can drive it on surface streets but not freeways.

modding a console is adding functionality to it, nothing more.
regionized consoles only serve to keep prices artificially high, which means the consumer loses. In this global economy, you should be able to buy games abroad and have them work, dammit.

...what? No, it's like saying "Since I bought this gun, I am allow to dissassemble and change it in any way I want."

What I was trying to point out, is that it's stupid to assume that since you bought something you can go do whatever the hell you want to do with it. Not the case. Welcome to the real world.

Yeah. Were you using the console to kill people, that metephor might be true.

why the hell not? You bought it with your money. It's not merely licensed to you, you own it. A modchip is essentially an upgrade, since a console is nothing more than a stripped-down computer. It's no different than putting a better video card into your rig.

I find this logic staggeringly stupid.

Console != PC

The entire reason mod chips are so taboo is because of what they are primarily used for, stealing games. If they were never used to steal games, Sony would probably sell them dime a dozen in some upgrade kit.

Stop people from doing stupid ****, and there won't be stupid rules and laws.

and you care about this....why?


I care b/c its an issue of freedom vs. corporate greed.

Wanting people to pay for their products instead of stealing them... THOSE GREEDY SONS OF *****ES.

Fight the power PW

I don't care.

If you want to go do something, go do something. However, this whole logic of "I own it, that means I can do what I want with it" is stupid.


And I can't think of a computer upgrade that aids in warezing software, though I can think of a few antiquated burners and burning software that might help.

Just because someone owns something has never granted them the right to do with it what they will.

Uhg, and you changed your post...

"I bought my computer and installed a modem in it using my money, so I can use it to hack websites and crash servers, causing damage and resulting in loss of sales."

You see no problem with this?

But that is not their only use. They can be used to play legitimate backups of games that you legally own.

I call it poor judgement and a misuse of the technology.

And what do you call this? "Creative transfer of property"?

I thought mod-chips were legal, that the only thing illegal was playing pirated games using them.

[edit]I have that ocean blue controller. And that swap card trick has been around for a long time, but people have been doing it with knives, by just taking the front panel off of the drive.

This brings back bad memories from those stupid file-sharing debates that we all used to get so hot over. Just like those, it inevitably ends in philosophical differences. In the end, I believe that it comes down to morality, instead of legality. Everyone breaks the law in some shape or fashion, but most people stay within the bounds of their own morals (most of the time). Bah...another pointless debate whether neither side is entirely wrong.

They can't persecute you for deciding to risk breaking your console by intsalling more onto it. however once you do play the burned games you violate copyright law or something. Even though i think that is only against distributors.... Dunno.

IN BEFORE THE LOCK.... that probably isnt coming

...And moral philosophy is right out of the window. I must say, reasoning like this makes me sick. When you own something, the only reason for your rights to end is when they infringe upon another's rights. When you mod your console, you're not infringing upon anybody's rights. Many of you confuse two different things for each other; one is a right, and the other is a privilige:

• Having sole command over your own intelectual property is a RIGHT.
• Making tons of money by exploiting your property is a PRIVILIGE.

That's why modding a console has nothing wrong with it, while pirating games is.

Perhaps the only thing more dangerous than the above logic that makes me sick is the response to what I just said: "Well, modded consoles can play pirated games!" To me, that is not truly making the claim based upon a right, but claiming that a right necessitates a form of pre-emption. The exact same logic would say that ALL guns should be illegal, as they could be used to kill somebody. Then again, the list would expand... pencils (might poke out an eye with them!) shirts, (can strangle somebody with them!) even shoes! (makes it easier to jaywalk!) Honestly, people, this line of thinking is just plain stupid. People need freedoms, even if it m,eans they can make a bad choice. Because without the freedom to make bad choices, good choices have no point.

Oh My Goodness!!!

Forget about the stupid legality debates! I was showing this so that everyone could see the cool PS2 controllers and consoles, plus ask if the chip could make it so that I can play US PS2 games on a Japanese console.

Thanks to those that answered my Q, though.

I'm 100% in favour of modding your console, once you buy it you can do whatever the heck you want with it. Pirate games, sure, I do it myself, and will continue to do it, but I don't pretend it's right. Saying that it's not stealing, or that it doesn't matter because it's a heartless corporation, it's just one sale, or it's my right because I bought it, are all small petty reasons thought up by people too weak to admit they're doing something wrong.

Is pirating a crime?
Yes.
Is pirating wrong?
Yes.
Does pirating hurt others?
Yes.

Anyone who says otherwise is deluding themselves.

Does not being able to play imported games hurt people?
Yes.

Make the system play Japanese games, and then we'll shut up. Till then, I'll mod my X-boxes, PS2s, and whatever else I end up purchasing. I bought it, I own it, and I'm not commiting and illegal acts with it. I'm playing games that I purchased myself.

Honestly, you people make it sound like installing a chip equals pirating. Far more is involved than that, and the chips primary useage is either Japanese imports, or possibly HD and new component installations.

JediKirby

I HIGHLY doubt that the main USE is imports, although it's the main PURPOSE...