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Oceans 12
2004-12-10, 12:57 PM #1
I enjoyed the first one...the second didn't get as good rating as the first, but the rating as still good enough. I don't expect it to be as good as Oceans 11, but I hope it's good....Who's seeing it? (STFU with the OMG THE ORIGINAL IS BETTAR THEY ARE RAPING THE MOVIEZ!)
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2004-12-10, 12:59 PM #2
I plan on seeing it tonight. Looks good.
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2004-12-10, 6:37 PM #3
Yeap, seeing it tonight. Looking forward to it, the original is hardly a brilliant movie but it is very entertaining.
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2004-12-10, 6:41 PM #4
If it's anything like the first then I'm sure it's worth seeing. Please return and report how you like it, sir. :)
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2004-12-10, 6:41 PM #5
I wanna see it myself, I liked the first one if this one is anything like that I'll be happy.
2004-12-10, 8:43 PM #6
I still want to know why everyone liked Oceans 11 so much. I'm not saying it's a bad movie, I absolutelly loved it. But WHY!? The movie is just like every other movie of it's kind, but I don't know, there's just something about it that's so damn interesting, that I can watch it multiple times over, and still laugh at every joke, and still love the ingenious theivery. I will Certainly be seeing it this weekeend.
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2004-12-10, 9:03 PM #7
Quote:
Originally posted by jEDIkIRBY
I still want to know why everyone liked Oceans 11 so much. I'm not saying it's a bad movie, I absolutelly loved it. But WHY!? The movie is just like every other movie of it's kind, but I don't know, there's just something about it that's so damn interesting, that I can watch it multiple times over, and still laugh at every joke, and still love the ingenious theivery. I will Certainly be seeing it this weekeend.

They do?
It was a good movie indeed, but I don't know anyone who views it as you describe.
2004-12-10, 9:08 PM #8
Quote:
Originally posted by jEDIkIRBY
I still want to know why everyone liked Oceans 11 so much.


- Heaps of stars
- Decent plot
- Entertaining, mildly funny
- Cool heist
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2004-12-10, 9:13 PM #9
So uh, yeah.

I saw it tonight. Entertaining, I must say... A couple little "ha ha" parts. New "bad guy" does some nifty break-dancing at one point. :p I liked it.

Nothing off-the-wall-amazing, though. Just fun.

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P.S. Cathrene Zeta Jones is a pretty, pretty girl.
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2004-12-10, 10:07 PM #10
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Originally posted by Squirrel King
It was a good movie indeed, but I don't know anyone who views it as you describe.


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2004-12-10, 10:25 PM #11
Um... Good movie, didn't know wtf was going on, still don't.
2004-12-11, 1:15 AM #12
Just got back from it...I hated it. The break dancing part was lame. Much/most of the camera and editing work really bothered me.
2004-12-11, 5:16 AM #13
Quote:
Originally posted by Bluevain

P.S. Cathrene Zeta Jones is a pretty, pretty girl.


Are you blind or just desparate?
nope.
2004-12-11, 5:41 AM #14
I thought it was good, not fantastic, not as good as the first one, but good anyway.
But the break-dancing past lasers bit is so overdone, oh and in this case completely ridiculous.
If the lasers move randomly, then it was pure fluke that he made it through, half the time when he was staying still as the lasers went past they could've easily changed pattern and caught him.
But apart from that, I enjoyed it.
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2004-12-11, 8:45 AM #15
Bah. I really didnt like it. The movie had no idea where the hell it was going, or how the hell it was going to get there. The whole thing was a bunch of needlessly complicated seemingly random events happening to a bunch of 2-dimensional characters whose only semblance of interest came from that we knew some of them from the previous movie. By the end I honestly did not care what happened to any of them.

Ocean's 11 oozed cool. It had style. Danny Ocean was so smooth, and all the supporting characters had important roles and most importantly, were interesting. Most of the cast just seemed to be along for the ride this time. Benedict (Andy Garcia) was a consummate villan in the first movie, in 12 he had about as much character as a cardboard cut-out of Paully Shore. And what the hell was up with the weird golf club?

I also hated the way the movie was shot. All the style and slickness was gone. Julia Roberts looked like she wasnt even wearing makeup half the time, while George Clooney stumbled his way through with very little for his character to actually do. In Ocean's 11 Danny Ocean was calm, cool, and always in control, in Ocean's 12 he's a grey-haired stooge with nothing better to do.

All of the charactes had a well-defined role in Ocean's 11. Linus the pick-pocket. Reuben the bankroll. Rusty the right-hand man. Basher the explosives expert. Frank the inside man. The two brothers the drivers. Saul the con-man. Yen the grease man, etc etc etc etc. In 12 they did nothing. Seriously. The 'heists' in the movie sucked and were non-sensical. The heist in Ocean's 11 was really cool, the audience had no idea what was going on but it all came together at the end and made sense. In 12 it seems like neither the audience nor the characters know what is going on, nothing came together (except that chick and her father, boo-freaking-hoo), and nothing made sense!

[here be spoilers]

If they had the Faberge egg from near the start of the move when they were in Paris, then why the farking hell did they go through with the whole 'lets devise an elaborate but lame plan and get arrested trying to steal the fake egg then get that dudes parents to bail us out' thing? They should have just gone to the evil french dude's house right then and said 'here's your stinking egg, give us our money'.

And what the hell was up with those lasers? Like someone said above there is NO way he could have got through if they were entirely random. Not to mention that they seemed to be only sweeping the floor, so why not just zip-line over them. Why wasnt there a pressure sensor underneath the egg? Hell why wasnt it under cover? Apparently a velvet rope is all the physical protection that egg needs.

Why the hell did they just give in to Benedic's demands? They're crooks. Smart crooks. Surely they'd think of some way to get away with it other than 'oh we'd better pay the guy back!'. That would have been such a better movie, too.

Oh, and Tess playing Julia Roberts? That's just lame, and a really weak story telling device. It just did not work.


ARRGH! This movie should have been so good. I wouldve settled for a rehash of the original. Hell it wouldve been nice if the same characters had truely returned from the original.

1/5
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2004-12-11, 10:09 AM #16
spoiler:
I did notice at one point that there were lasers going upwards, so zipline would not have worked


If anyone could tell me the title of the song that played during the breakdance/laser scene I will be soooooo grateful.
2004-12-11, 10:16 AM #17
I thought the first half of the movie was FANTASTIC, the bits before the end were awful, and the final bit was pretty good.

The part with Julia Roberts was pretty bad. I the beginning I laughed a bit when I saw it, but they drew it out so long and it was terrible.

Julia Roberts is not hot. Catherine Zeta-Jones however.... a "Stone Cold Fox", as Mikus would say.

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