lmao

http://streetcombat.8m.com/magic.html

Took the link from a forum dedicated to making fun of stupid people who think they know martial arts.

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[Note that I think the guy has admitted it is a joke, though I'm not sure.]

Alright, being one who hangs out in martial arts circles, that guy is literally the butt of many jokes (amongst others). And to this day we still don't know if he is trying to be serious or not.

That's frelling awesome :p

ROFL!

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I clicked on the link. All I did was look at the title "Deadliest Martial Art Ever Known", and the picture. It's a joke. The picture tells it right there. A good Martial Arist wouldn't have his right hand up like that, exposeing his wrist, and his legs like that, exposeing his groin.

I'm not even going to bother reading it.

I would've never stood like that, exposing the wrists and all indeed. I always stand a bit like a squirrel, it gives me a link with nature's furry animals.

Squirrel King style?

Actually, that guy in the drawing is doing Taijiquan or Baguazhang. He can stand that way if it is part of the movement, its not necessarily a stance.

He's doing a move called "Heavenly Palm" in the system of Bagua. Not a Tai chi move. Don't get me wrong, Bagua's good stuff, but some of their moves I'm skeptical on. Great for bodyguards/bouncers though, but actual street defence? I'll stick with my Kenpo/Tai Chi. Never let me down yet.

In fact, the resmbelnce in the characters in that picture at the bottom indicates that it says Baguazhange, now that I notice it. And I see that they used Yi Jing lines, thus telling the orgin that this is indeed Bagua.

So that link is fake.

Or I dunno, A JOKE.

Yeah, seriously, laugh dammit. No need to go disproving it or anything, its a joke, its funny... its funny... LAUGH!!!
Ok, fine dont laugh, but at least dont take it so serious, let us laugh at it.

Oh, I laughed. Especially when he said you can use your body odor to distract the opponent and your sweat to lubricate yourself.

That's because bagua isn't designed with street fights in mind .. you want to brawl on the street, go train kickboxing or something.

(not discrediting you but) tai chi and other internal arts (LIKE AIKIDO ahrm) take wayy too long to cultivate to be anywhere near useful in a street brawl unless it's like disable and run away, just because it's designed for high level combat, whereas people with no training are highly unpredictable n often times it's much more efficient (and less annoying) just to hinder them and get out, rather than trying to make them do something so you can do something .. strike, takedown, choke, run away. weee go crudeness

Same here, by the way, not to discredit you or offend you.

Tai Chi? Tai Chi was developed for only one or two opponets at a time. People think it's either just for fighting, or just for healing, but it's really a mixture.

Nah, if you're going to fight on the street, you're not usually going to be attacked by just one person. You're attacked by a whole gang. I got into two street fights in which I defended myself, once with 3 people, another time with 8 or 9 (can't remeber, long ago). I didn't use Tai Chi for two reasons:

1) I wasn't good enough to use it in combat at the time.
2) Tai Chi style is ment for typically solo attacks if used in combat.

That's why I used Kenpo Karate (Specializes and single and multi combat tactics, and it's authenic [look around] because of Kenpo was used as a "war art" in old Japan...and in a war, you don't pick your targets, you just attack whatever you think is an enemy, and just like all pre-modern wars, your enemies attack in small groups on the battlefield). Went home without getting hit. That was a while ago.

My point is, I use Tai Chi in school fights (used to get in a lot of school fights last year while I was a freshman...all other grade levels like to pick on freshmen for some reason). And you're right, it does take a long time to learn how to use Tai Chi to both heal and defend. But patience is a key to fighting and healing.

I find that people without combat training backgrounds are actually more predictable than people that do know how to fight. I don't know why you came up with that, but in my days it all usually begins with a push or grab, which is what I like. Gives me an oppurtunity to have some fun. I just love seeing them on their tip-toes shouting and screaming, while everyone watches him, and he begs to let go in humiliation.

Keep in mind internal martial arts...is still martial arts. It takes a long time to fight with it, but in internal martial arts, you first learn how to develope and use Qi, and then learn how to defend. That's why it takes a long time. And Tai Chi is mixed with Dim Mak somewhat, so you're right, I'd prefer to just knock them out/stun them and be on my way.

All martial arts take a long time to learn (besides Tae Kwon Do). And almost all of them will be effective (besides Tae Kwon Do).

Perhaps I wasn't clear -- by unpredictable, I mean things that you wouldn't see someone do if they knew what they were doing (like doing a flying forward hiiiyaaa jumpkick as a first attack) .. I dunno, maybe I just suck, but when I'm expecting something that anyone with common sense would do or try to do and something like that happens I'm caught off guard long enough for whatever I want to happen to not work .. my point is, with certain techniques you have to manipulate whoever you're fighting, and if that person DOESNT REACT like the way the technique is designed for (and often the technique is designed for a trained reaction), then it gets frustrating.

I'm not saying tai chi or internal in general sucks, I like taichi, it's just not good for certain situations. Maybe we're agreeing with each other here and not realizing it.

Also, I guess we come from different backgrounds, but I do not get attacked by groups of people, because I am always with a group of people .. when I fight it's because one person pissed me off or I pissed one person off, and no one else around us really cares.

I'm not questioning the authenticity of kenpo, I don't think I even mentioned it.

Whatever. I'm a kickboxer, a newb grappler, and external in general for now, so I shouldn't delve into things I really don't know much about. I'll get back to you when I start developing my taichi.

And I'm going to attack you if I run into you on the street for making me type all that out. *****.

That's what we call a variable.

And about manipulation, it's not really trying to get them to act the way you want to. Just just assume it'll work.

Example:

Someone kicks you in the balls, you double over, about to fall down. Then someone can go in and attack again.

You're right, Tai Chi isn't ment for certain situations. But it could be used, still, but not recommended.