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The rulage and awesomeness that is Knoppix

2004-04-17, 5:41 PM #1

SithNazgul

Or else!

Posts: 609

After Debian Woody's X-Server wouldn't work on my machine due to my modern hardware, and neither would my onboard NIC, I went without for a little while.
Then Knoppix came along. Booted it up, did a HD install, and after figuring out that pressing the cd eject button while its trying to install is NOT a good idea,
After repairing my MBR, and reinstalling, it worked. Now im running it as well as XP Prof. Corp, and Im loving it.
Apt-get aint working to well...I think its got the wrong addresses set up for the Unstable repsotories...but other than that...going great! Even my sound system is working right now! (On Mandrake, it was re-routing the bass to my satellite speakers. Sounded great. Now bass goes to my sub-(w)doofer )

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2004-04-17, 6:12 PM #2

MechWarrior

Should be.

Posts: 3,197

[http://www.lockitupoffroad.com/Flexotapics/Haha.jpg]

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Don't be unwise judge me not by my size. You wont believe your eyes watch the xwing rise!

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2004-04-17, 6:16 PM #3

GBK

Posts: 10,562

/me pats SN on the back....

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I used to believe that we must fight the future, lest change come without our consent. I was wrong. The truth is that we must embrace the future, for only with change can we remain the same.

And when the moment is right, I'm gonna fly a kite.

2004-04-17, 6:19 PM #4

Mystic0

Rich Boi

Posts: 2,336

The apt-get that comes with Knoppix is a mix of stable and unstable. My apt-get experience wasn't the best with Knoppix. My experience with Debian was even worse (wretched installation scripts!). I am thouroughly satisfied with Gentoo and Portage.

Is it just me, or is massassi having a linux overdoes? (I'm sure that I am not helping [http://forums.massassi.net/html/redface.gif]

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2004-04-18, 11:48 AM #5

MechWarrior

Should be.

Posts: 3,197

Meh the nerd leaders switched over a while ago... so most of the followers are going now. I'll stick with my windows if its alright with you.

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Don't be unwise judge me not by my size. You wont believe your eyes watch the xwing rise!

2004-04-18, 1:57 PM #6

Mystic0

Rich Boi

Posts: 2,336

If you choose Windows, you'll still be following a greater number of people. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]

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2004-04-18, 3:08 PM #7

Pagewizard_YKS

Redeemed Scoundrel

Posts: 5,971

Knoppix is pretty good.

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2004-04-18, 3:10 PM #8

GBK

Posts: 10,562

Quote:

Originally posted by MechWarrior:
Meh the nerd leaders switched over a while ago...

Im a nerd leader? Wow! The honor! [http://forums.massassi.net/html/eek.gif]

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I used to believe that we must fight the future, lest change come without our consent. I was wrong. The truth is that we must embrace the future, for only with change can we remain the same.

And when the moment is right, I'm gonna fly a kite.

2004-04-18, 3:13 PM #9

Mystic0

Rich Boi

Posts: 2,336

Nerd Leader to Massassi, commander, but insignificant to the nerdiness of the Slashdot... [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif]

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2004-04-18, 3:14 PM #10

GBK

Posts: 10,562

Aye, my /. karma is low. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/frown.gif]

And when the moment is right, I'm gonna fly a kite.

2004-04-18, 3:15 PM #11

Mystic0

Rich Boi

Posts: 2,336

d00d, you respond, liek, fast. Join the F5 club!

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2004-04-18, 3:16 PM #12

GBK

Posts: 10,562

I never touch the stuff. Its all pie menus for me... [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif]

And when the moment is right, I'm gonna fly a kite.

2004-04-18, 3:17 PM #13

Mystic0

Rich Boi

Posts: 2,336

I can't stand radial menus.

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2004-04-18, 3:18 PM #14

GBK

Posts: 10,562

j00 s|_|C|<

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I used to believe that we must fight the future, lest change come without our consent. I was wrong. The truth is that we must embrace the future, for only with change can we remain the same.

And when the moment is right, I'm gonna fly a kite.

2004-04-18, 3:22 PM #15

Mystic0

Rich Boi

Posts: 2,336

[http://forums.massassi.net/html/rolleyes.gif]

Now to further infuriate GBK by coding some Python... [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif]

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[This message has been edited by Mystic0 (edited April 18, 2004).]

[This message has been edited by Mystic0 (edited April 18, 2004).]

2004-04-18, 3:27 PM #16

GBK

Posts: 10,562

Perl > Python

Code:

#!/usr/bin/perl
use KillMystic0Slowly;
KillMystic0Slowly($ARGV[0]);
die "yeah, he went out screaming like a pig";

J/K

And when the moment is right, I'm gonna fly a kite.

2004-04-18, 3:33 PM #17

Mystic0

Rich Boi

Posts: 2,336

Python doesn't need semicolons. Hah. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]

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2004-04-18, 3:34 PM #18

GBK

Posts: 10,562

Yeah, but I can squeeze a whole perl script onto ONE LINE. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]

And when the moment is right, I'm gonna fly a kite.

2004-04-18, 3:42 PM #19

BurrBoy

Has nothing.

Posts: 2,246

I don't have a clue what their talking about, but its very entertaining nonetheless.

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2004-04-18, 3:52 PM #20

dalf

Everyone's favorite alcoholic administrator!

Posts: 8,683

Quote:

Originally posted by GBK:
Perl > Python

Code:

#!/usr/bin/perl
use KillMystic0Slowly;
KillMystic0Slowly($ARGV[0]);
die "yeah, he went out screaming like a pig";

J/K

[/b]

C++ > Perl > Python

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Code to the left of him, code to the right of him, code in front of him compil'd and thundered. Programm'd at with shot and $SHELL. Boldly he typed and well. Into the jaws of C. Into the mouth of PERL. Debug'd the 0x258.

2004-04-18, 3:57 PM #21

GBK

Posts: 10,562

Quote:

Originally posted by Gandalf1120:
C++ > Perl > Python

I can live with that.

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I used to believe that we must fight the future, lest change come without our consent. I was wrong. The truth is that we must embrace the future, for only with change can we remain the same.

And when the moment is right, I'm gonna fly a kite.

2004-04-18, 4:08 PM #22

Pagewizard_YKS

Redeemed Scoundrel

Posts: 5,971

Quote:

Originally posted by BurrBoy:
I don't have a clue what their talking about, but its very entertaining nonetheless.

Lets put them in a room and watch them fight. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

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2004-04-18, 4:11 PM #23

Mystic0

Rich Boi

Posts: 2,336

Python can do things in 1 line... but it isn't recommened, because then your code will start to look cryptic and confusing, just like perl. [http://forums.gentoo.org/images/smiles/icon_twisted.gif]

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[This message has been edited by Mystic0 (edited April 18, 2004).]

2004-04-18, 4:22 PM #24

GBK

Posts: 10,562

Perl? Cryptic and confusing? Bah! I laugh at the thought of it! Hahah! [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]

And when the moment is right, I'm gonna fly a kite.

2004-04-18, 4:30 PM #25

Mystic0

Rich Boi

Posts: 2,336

Perl:

Code:

#!/usr/bin/perl -w

use strict;

my @records = ();

foreach my $line ( <> )
{
    my @record = map {s/"//g; $_} split("\t", $line);
    push(@records, \@record);
}

my $EMAIL = 17;
my $CONTACTME = 27;
my $SKUTITLE = 34;

my @contactRecords = ();
foreach my $r ( @records )
{
    push(@contactRecords, [$$r[$SKUTITLE], $$r[$CONTACTME], $$r[$EMAIL]]);
}

@contactRecords = sort {$$a[0] cmp $$b[0]} @contactRecords;
@contactRecords = grep($$_[1] eq "1", @contactRecords);

foreach my $r ( @contactRecords )
{
    print join("\t", @$r), "\n";
}

Python:

Code:

#!/usr/bin/python

import fileinput

records = []

for line in fileinput.input():
    record = [field.replace('"', '') for field in line.split("\t")]
    records.append(record)

EMAIL = 17
CONTACTME = 27
SKUTITLE = 34

contactRecords = [[r[SKUTITLE], r[CONTACTME], r] for r in records]
contactRecords.sort() # default sort will group by sku title
contactRecords = filter(lambda r: r[1] == "1", contactRecords)

for r in contactRecords:
    print "\t".join(r)

So I guess you could say that Python < Perl... less lines to do the same thing! [http://forums.gentoo.org/images/smiles/icon_twisted.gif]

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2004-04-18, 4:42 PM #26

Mystic0

Rich Boi

Posts: 2,336

What is this thread about again?

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2004-04-18, 4:45 PM #27

SAJN

SAJN_Master

Posts: 11,157

I belive it's GBK's turn to post.

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2004-04-18, 4:48 PM #28

Mystic0

Rich Boi

Posts: 2,336

Going out of turn... [http://forums.gentoo.org/images/smiles/icon_twisted.gif]

Quote:

EXTERIOR: DAGOBAH -- DAY
With Yoda strapped to his back, Luke climbs up one of the
many thick vines that grow in the swamp until he reaches the
Dagobah statistics lab. Panting heavily, he continues his
exercises -- grepping, installing new packages, logging in as
root, and writing replacements for two-year-old shell scripts
in Python.

YODA: Code! Yes. A programmer's strength flows from code maintainability.
But beware of Perl. Terse syntax... more than one way to do it...
default variables. The dark side of code maintainability are they.
Easily they flow, quick to join you when code you write. If once
you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny,
consume you it will.

LUKE: Is Perl better than Python?

YODA: No... no... no. Quicker, easier, more seductive.

LUKE: But how will I know why Python is better than Perl?

YODA: You will know. When your code you try to read six months from
now.

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2004-04-18, 4:52 PM #29

GBK

Posts: 10,562

Good one, Mystic... [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]

Id retailiate, but I dont see the point. If you want to waste your time fooling around with toys like Python, well, thats your option... [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif]

And when the moment is right, I'm gonna fly a kite.

2004-04-18, 4:53 PM #30

Mystic0

Rich Boi

Posts: 2,336

Don't worry, I like fooling around. I think we pretty much anihilated this thread, however. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/redface.gif]

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[This message has been edited by Mystic0 (edited April 18, 2004).]

2004-04-18, 4:56 PM #31

GBK

Posts: 10,562

Yeah, this thread is quite derailed. What was the topic? Knoppix's ruling and Python's sucking? Ahh, ok. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]

And when the moment is right, I'm gonna fly a kite.