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2004-12-26, 1:42 PM #1
Looking to get back into it, hadn't gotten new ones for a while because I ran out of space on my old computer

Any suggestions? (preferably shooters)
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2004-12-26, 1:50 PM #2
You should buy Painkiller because it's freakin' AWESOME!!!
Think while it's still legal.
2004-12-26, 1:53 PM #3
HL2 and vampire Bloodlines
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2004-12-26, 2:02 PM #4
Battle For Middle Earth

It's not a shooter... but some of the units shoot.
2004-12-26, 2:56 PM #5
HL2 or UT2k4. Or both. Definately both.
2004-12-26, 3:27 PM #6
I loved Red Faction.
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2004-12-26, 3:28 PM #7
UT2k4 + Red Orchestra = Win

FarCry, even if only for the play before you hit the mutants

Battlefield: Vietnam if you like Battlefield

Doom 3 if you fancy it

Half-Life 2 if you fancy it

Painkiller. Oh hell yes.

's about it for now
D E A T H
2004-12-26, 3:37 PM #8
The mutants made FarCry a LOT more interesting in gameplay and just better overall kthxbye. Shooting Mercs the entire game would have gotten boring. This added a new level of play. It made the game more fast paced, more interesting, and to some people scary. But enough about how mutants make FarCry better, BUY PAINKILLER!!!
Think while it's still legal.
2004-12-26, 4:25 PM #9
Quote:
Originally posted by SAJN_Master
The mutants made FarCry a LOT more interesting in gameplay and just better overall kthxbye. Shooting Mercs the entire game would have gotten boring. This added a new level of play. It made the game more fast paced, more interesting, and to some people scary. But enough about how mutants make FarCry better, BUY PAINKILLER!!!


Wow, hey, why don't you be more of an ignorant *** 'kthxbye'.

I personally didn't find FarCry all that intuitive and awesome after the mercs' reign ended. After that it was just another pretty looking shooter. It would've still been fun if I even liked the mutants, but I didn't.
D E A T H
2004-12-26, 4:35 PM #10
Quote:
Originally posted by Dj Yoshi
Wow, hey, why don't you be more of an ignorant *** 'kthxbye'.

I personally didn't find FarCry all that intuitive and awesome after the mercs' reign ended. After that it was just another pretty looking shooter. It would've still been fun if I even liked the mutants, but I didn't.

Hey calm down, he was just disagreeing with you.
2004-12-26, 4:46 PM #11
Quote:
Originally posted by tofu
Hey calm down, he was just disagreeing with you.


In a totally ignorant *** way.

;)
D E A T H
2004-12-26, 4:52 PM #12
pot, kettle, sit down i have something to tell you... you are both black
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2004-12-26, 5:09 PM #13
As far as shooters go

Call of Duty
Halo (yeah i know but its cheap now)
Farcry (also cheap now)
Doom3 (if you can find it cheap)
Half- Life 2 (do not get the package, just get it off of steam)



What ever you do, do not get Battle for middle earth at least until the patch comes out and the price drops cause no matter what those E3 videos show you, alll that good stuff was cut from the game so it would ship before x-mas and now rumors have it that EA is already throwing together an expansion pack which basically consist of all the unfinished stuff they didn't have time to finish (WTF!!! they could have just waited a couple of months and fixed the game instead of shipping it borken).
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2004-12-26, 5:15 PM #14
Quote:
Wow, hey, why don't you be more of an ignorant *** 'kthxbye'.


You sure use that word a lot. Ignorance is the lack of knowledge or talking about something you don't even know about...My post didn't have anything ignorant about it. If there are any other words you are unsure of please visit http://www.dictionary.com

This has been your daily vocabulary announcement. Tune in tommorow when we define the word Dipsomania

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I concur about Battle for Middle Earth. Check out Rome:Total War if you want a killer RTS. Then again you want a shooter....PAINKILLER-PAINKILLER-PAINKILLER-PAINKILLER-PAINKILLER-PAINKILLER-PAINKILLER!!!
Think while it's still legal.
2004-12-26, 5:16 PM #15
Quote:
Originally posted by Firestorm
As far as shooters go

Call of Duty
Halo (yeah i know but its cheap now)
Farcry (also cheap now)
Doom3 (if you can find it cheap)
Half- Life 2 (do not get the package, just get it off of steam)



What ever you do, do not get Battle for middle earth at least until the patch comes out and the price drops cause no matter what those E3 videos show you, alll that good stuff was cut from the game so it would ship before x-mas and now rumors have it that EA is already throwing together an expansion pack which basically consist of all the unfinished stuff they didn't have time to finish (WTF!!! they could have just waited a couple of months and fixed the game instead of shipping it borken).


Yeah, that's what Blizzard does. Sorta. They cut out certain aspects and save them for expansion packs.

But they rock so much *** nobody cares.
D E A T H
2004-12-26, 5:21 PM #16
Wow, who could have guessed that this thread would degenerate into a fanboy flamewar within 10 posts...

Anyways, the shooters that I recommend are:

HL2
Doom 3 (yes, it's possible to like both of them! Who knew?!)
Halo (yah, they did a crap job porting it to PC, so you'll need a blisteringly fast graphics card to make it look good and not slow down intolerably whenever there are plasma effects)
Far Cry
UT2K4


If you're looking for some older stuff: Half-Life, Jedi Knight (obviously), Unreal Tournament, etc.
Stuff
2004-12-26, 5:21 PM #17
Honestly, I wouldn't recomment Halo PC unless you'd never played Halo, and didn't have an Xbox. Halo PCs ONLY major plus was online play. Halo is really a lot, lot, LOT, more fun on Xbox. Anyone who says otherwise hasn't been playing with the right people.

I'm entitled to an opinion. Wanna debate? I think my screen name is in my profile.
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Last Stand
2004-12-26, 5:28 PM #18
Quote:
Halo (yah, they did a crap job porting it to PC, so you'll need a blisteringly fast graphics card to make it look good and not slow down intolerably whenever there are plasma effects)


Most people complain about the Halo port, but it runs fine for me. When I had my GeForce 2, 512mb ram, 1.7Ghz processor, it ran perfect on medium detail. Then I got myself the Radeon9600XT, and it runs flawlessly on highest detail. THEN I got the AMD 3000+ 64bit, and 1GB of Ram, it runs better, but not THAT much of a difference, only in firefights and such can you really tell how much better it runs. Because after a certain FPS you really can't tell the difference. So you don't really need an uber PC to run Halo. The other thing is, most people who played Halo online or singleplayer, played it when the port first came out. But it's been patched a lot since, and there is just about no lag online (just about as much as any other game). Not trying to argue with you, just point out some stuff that I noticed.
Think while it's still legal.
2004-12-26, 5:33 PM #19
There's still tons of lag online, the game still needlessly requires a 9600XT or better to run smoothly with effects on, and maybe your eyes shut off after 20 fps, SAJN, but I can tell differences into 60-70 fps.
D E A T H
2004-12-26, 5:33 PM #20
Well most of those shooters have demos so i would just suggest getting the demos.

Yeah Yoshi you're right blizzard does do that but it goes far beyond a few units and such. They totally dumbed down the AI behavoir, they got rid of the free camera (yeah all those screenshots with that nice sky... you can't do that cause the camara is locked and only rotates). Basically its almost like false advertising with all the cool videos they released showing off things that we expected to be in the final product (in fact alot of those features were why people wanted the game in the first place). All in all it still feals like a rush job that to me isn't worth $50, maybe $30. I just wish i got Pirates instead.

Ill just refrence this thread since it pretty much explains it all

http://www.forumplanet.com/rpgplanet/memw/topic.asp?fid=7429&tid=1564924
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2004-12-26, 6:48 PM #21
Quote:
Originally posted by SAJN_Master
The other thing is, most people who played Halo online or singleplayer, played it when the port first came out. But it's been patched a lot since, and there is just about no lag online (just about as much as any other game). Not trying to argue with you, just point out some stuff that I noticed.


I played the demo for months on end before I got the full version (I didn't have the cash to spare). When I got it, I think the version numbers were up to 1.04. Online play still sucked, just not as much, because of the customized games.

Gearbox still screwed the port in other ways though. The weapons in Halo on Xbox were for the most part, pretty well balanced. They translated all of that directly to PC. The weapons are now unbalanced in multiplayer. It's harder to aim with dual-thumbsticks than with a mouse. Lets take pistol headshots for example. Those aren't easy to get on Xbox unless you're skilled. On PC, they are insanely easy. They should have rebalanced the weapons in multiplayer.

The Flamethrower is an essentially useless weapon. It's simply never worth the trouble to pick up. I've only used it on three or four occasions. It's main downfall is it's range. It has what, two or thee times the range of a melee attack? If you've managed to get that close to a person from behind, why not just go for the silent kill instead of fireing on them, which tells them an enemy is back there, and will probably get you killed before they die. If you're attacking from the the front, you're pretty stupid.

The Fuel Rod Cannon is an awesome weapon, but it acts essentially like the Conc from JK. It has the explosive power of the Rocket Launcher. Ok. It's a mortar weapon. Big plus. It has an energy supply like the plasma weapons. Uh, no. That allows you to get off so many shots it's rediculous. Fuel Rods, like the name implies, are supposed to be radioactive rods that explode on contact with an object. Not an energy weapon. Thus ammo should have been provided. The way the Fuel Rod works in Halo 2, is what it should have done in Halo PC.

The Banshee in Multiplayer was an excellent idea. It added a third dimension to vehical combat, air support and defense. You could already go anywhere, you just couldn't go up. The Banshee's downfall? Idiot players who treat it as a car and run it along the ground crushing others. The weapons were overly powerful, and it wasn't exactly always easy to kill the pilot. Lastly, the Banshee was added into levels that were simply not designed to support it. Blood Gulch did NOT need a Banshee. The level ceiling is too low, the level is too small. Sidewinder was a decent level for it. Gearbox's Death Island was a level designed with the Banshee in mind. That level worked perfectly for the Banshee.

The Rocket 'Hog. Firstly, wtf were they thinking? Alright, it's a nice idea, but the implementation completely and totally sucks. The Rocket 'Hog is completely useless for anything other than transportation from Point A in a non-combat zone, to Point-B, also in a non-combat zone. Why? The mounted rocket launchers blow. You have three rockets before you need to reload. This is fine. Those three rockets NEVER go to the same place when fired. This is NOT fine. Now, if you fireing them off quickly, that would work for me. The recoil from the first rocket has thrown off your aim a bit, so the second isn't going to go to the same spot. But it doesn't work that way. Pick a spot, and fire all three rockets slowly. Watch just how far away from the center of the crosshairs they go. That makes the rockets useless. That vehical would be the perfect mobile anti-vehical weapon if those rockets flew at least mostly straight, but they don't. And if they don't go straight, your chances of hitting a target drop. A lot. The reload time is also pretty bad, but again, if the rockets acted like you'd expect them to, that would be a manageable problem.

I'm happy to see Halo on PC just like loads of other people are, but the fact is, Gearbox screwed major portions of the game up when they ported it. The additions overall are bad. Balance was left as is, instead of modified for system it was being ported to. I find myself using Halo PC as more of a boredom killer than anything else. If I want a serious game of Halo, I switch on my Xbox and pop in the disk. Everything is better. It just feels cleaner, every weapon has a drawback and an advantage. An advantage that can be countered by another weapon. And lastly, for me, there is no greater joy than to FEEL what's happening as I play. I don't just hear and see the grenade next to me detonate, I feel it through the controller. I feel the kickback of my weapons as I fire. And if the guy I'm playing with makes a lame kill, I can punch him. You can't do that online.

Bah... and I said I wasn't going to do that.
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Last Stand
2004-12-26, 6:53 PM #22
Basically, phoenix covered my gripes. My only other one is that they didn't give Halo PC co-op. That would've been the deal breaker for me. Hell, it's what sold Serious Sam 1 and 2, basically.

Not to mention no graphical updates and yet it still requires DX9 (original was on a DX8.1 card, so wtf sir?)
D E A T H
2004-12-26, 7:12 PM #23
Halo was a bad port. No argument about it. For its graphical quality, it should've ran at least twice (or maybe thrice) as fast as it did.

You should've been able to run it at about 1280x960 with full detail on a GeForce 4 and get very high framerates.

On the timedemo at 1600x1200, full detail, latest patch, my system with a 6600 GT only got around 40 fps. That's just sad. That's about half of what HL2 (which looks exponentially better) gets on average at the same resolution and settings.

I much prefer to be playing 12 man LAN games of Halo and Halo 2 on XBox with my friends than to play crappy games of Halo PC online.
2004-12-26, 7:56 PM #24
get a life
2004-12-26, 8:06 PM #25
You felt the need to spend all that time registering just to say that? I feel honored. We all feel honored.

Reguardless, I have a life, and I enjoy it very much.

Upon reflection of your other posts, I'm very happy to know you won't be here long.

Bye.
"In the beginning, the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move." - Douglas Adams
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Last Stand
2004-12-26, 8:07 PM #26
**** YOU *****
2004-12-26, 8:07 PM #27
"Nairb", eh? Clever.
Stuff
2004-12-26, 8:20 PM #28
UT2k4 Onslaught > * as far as FPS MP goes
2004-12-26, 8:28 PM #29
GUESS what it is backwards...that dudes a douche
2004-12-26, 11:50 PM #30
Farcry owns you. Seriously, the first 3 levels in farcry are worth any other game out there.
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2004-12-27, 12:03 AM #31
Both Prince of Persia: SoT and WW are worth getting. SoT more so than WW in my opinion, but WW is great fun in its own right. It's just a different sort of fun, one that deviates A LOT from SoT. But fun nonetheless.
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2004-12-27, 12:06 AM #32
The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape From Butcher Bay: Developers Cut
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2004-12-27, 12:23 AM #33
If you're on a budget, No One Lives Forever 2 (or 1) is a great choice! In 2, you can choose to go stealth or rambo. It's quite fun, and a very underrated game.
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2004-12-27, 12:26 AM #34
Add Max Payne 1 and 2 to the list.
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2004-12-27, 2:45 AM #35
UT2K4
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2004-12-27, 7:11 AM #36
Check the $10 bargin games at Walmart if your on a tight budjet. Last time I was there they had Hitman 2, Max Payne, a Doom collection, Star Wars Galatic Battlegrounds plus Clone Wars, an Alice and Undying pack (if you've never heard of it, Undying rocks), Indiana Jone's Emperiors Tomb, and Jedi Outcast.
2004-12-27, 8:20 AM #37
Deus Ex
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2004-12-27, 10:14 AM #38
some things that haven't been sugested so far that I like are:

Unreal II
Tron 2.0

othere than those . . . what everyone else said :p
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2004-12-27, 10:15 AM #39
If youre pissed off and need a good stress reliever, play Postal 2.

what other game lets you light people on fire then piss them out?
2004-12-27, 10:51 AM #40
Quote:
Originally posted by Freelancer
If you're on a budget, No One Lives Forever 2 (or 1) is a great choice! In 2, you can choose to go stealth or rambo. It's quite fun, and a very underrated game.


Yes! NOLF and NOLF2 are my favorite FPSs of all time.
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