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Who's a better person?
2005-01-09, 8:10 PM #1
A person who doesn't really care about the issues and troubles in the world today, or a person who often moans about all the "problems" in the world but does nothing to help such matters?

It's an odd question, but I believe they are at the same level when it comes to morals. But, I would choose, if companions were limited to those 2, the first person to be around with. He may be ignorant and somewhat unappreciative of what he has, but atleast I won't have to hear depressing, repetitive talk from a lazy guy who he thinks what he is saying is enlightening and smart...
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2005-01-09, 8:11 PM #2
Me.
2005-01-09, 8:21 PM #3
Obviously the answer is Jesus. :) ;)

Taking a wild guess on this, I'd say the person who moans and groans about the problems. At least they're showing a concern for such a problem. They won't necesarily be capable of doing anything about it though either.

Though if they clearly could do something about it ** and they don't, then I'd say they're about on par with the guys who don't care less.

** - that's of course within reason, not like donating your last 5 dollars to live on, even though that would be an incredibly noble act; I mean more like donating money to the cause out of your surplus income, so you can still support yourself (and family)
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2005-01-09, 8:45 PM #4
#1 by far. #2 is a hypocrite.
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2005-01-09, 9:08 PM #5
Fo shizzle, Nightwind. [caucasian translation: I agree with you wholeheartedly my african american brother (no harm intended)] But at least #2 is complaining and speaking his mind. Isn't that what democracy is all about?
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2005-01-09, 9:11 PM #6
It's people like #2 that screwed over the reputation of much of the working class in france for a century .. if you give stupid people democracy, they're going to screw it up .. free democracy only works when people are intelligent and properly educated on issues.
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2005-01-09, 9:12 PM #7
DH, I am not African American for one (I didn't get my skin altered in the two days since I saw you last), and democracy is about taking action on your beliefs, not just complaining.
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2005-01-09, 9:19 PM #8
That's true, but isn't voting in a manner of speaking complaining or speaking your mind? You're not doing much...
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2005-01-09, 9:19 PM #9
Quote:
Originally posted by Pommy
It's people like #2 that screwed over the reputation of much of the working class in france for a century .. if you give stupid people democracy, they're going to screw it up .. free democracy only works when people are intelligent and properly educated on issues.
That's why I hate the press.
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2005-01-09, 10:04 PM #10
Person two is a ton better, because they are aware of the problems. To argue and differently is stupid, because person number one isn't even informed of the problem.

If you aren't informed of a problem, what chance do you have of fixing it?

I think we need to review the steps of problem-solving:

1. Understand the problem
2. Analyze the problem
3. Find a solution

Person #2 has completed step number one, and some of them do a good job of analyzing the problem. Even if they do not work toward a solution, they are at least working to spread awareness through their *****ing.
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2005-01-10, 1:15 AM #11
Neither one of them is better, in my opinion. People who ***** about something and do nothing annoy me and people who don't care annoy me. If they want to be better, they ought to do something about it to make it better.

Personally though, people who ***** and do nothing annoy me more because I can actually hear them and they bring attention to themselves.
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2005-01-10, 4:25 AM #12
Quote:
Originally posted by Freelancer
Person two is a ton better, because they are aware of the problems. To argue and differently is stupid, because person number one isn't even informed of the problem.

If you aren't informed of a problem, what chance do you have of fixing it?

I think we need to review the steps of problem-solving:

1. Understand the problem
2. Analyze the problem
3. Find a solution

Person #2 has completed step number one, and some of them do a good job of analyzing the problem. Even if they do not work toward a solution, they are at least working to spread awareness through their *****ing.
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2005-01-10, 4:29 AM #13
Quote:
Originally posted by Avenger
Neither one of them is better, in my opinion. People who ***** about something and do nothing annoy me and people who don't care annoy me. If they want to be better, they ought to do something about it to make it better.

Personally though, people who ***** and do nothing annoy me more because I can actually hear them and they bring attention to themselves.



So Avenger, do I annoy you?;)

Anyway, I think either option kinda sucks, actually. I dunno why, it just does.
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2005-01-10, 6:32 AM #14
I'd say #2 is better, but then, #2 is me. I ***** and moan constantly and get very depressed about the state of the world, but so far, of my 20 years on the planet, I've done very little to help. I do plan to change that though.
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2005-01-10, 6:42 AM #15
Quote:
Originally posted by maevie
I'd say #2 is better, but then, #2 is me. I ***** and moan constantly and get very depressed about the state of the world, but so far, of my 20 years on the planet, I've done very little to help. I do plan to change that though.


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2005-01-10, 7:21 AM #16
ha! took me a second there to work out what the hell you were talking about...but hey, it's an idea!
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2005-01-10, 8:33 AM #17
Quote:
Originally posted by Shintock
Me.
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2005-01-10, 9:32 AM #18
Quote:
Originally posted by Freelancer
Person two is a ton better, because they are aware of the problems. To argue and differently is stupid, because person number one isn't even informed of the problem.

If you aren't informed of a problem, what chance do you have of fixing it?

I think we need to review the steps of problem-solving:

1. Understand the problem
2. Analyze the problem
3. Find a solution

Person #2 has completed step number one, and some of them do a good job of analyzing the problem. Even if they do not work toward a solution, they are at least working to spread awareness through their *****ing.


One sided awareness most likely.

And I don't appreciate you calling people's opinions "stupid."
2005-01-10, 11:22 AM #19
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Originally posted by Shintock
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2005-01-10, 11:27 AM #20
Quote:
Originally posted by Double Helix
That's true, but isn't voting in a manner of speaking complaining or speaking your mind? You're not doing much...


Well, indeed, it isn't "doing much" but atleast it is doing something. A vote is a vote, and a vote does make an impact on the politics (but a very small one). That's why there were so many "go vote" and "rock the vote" campaigns to pressure people, who has a politcal stance, to atleast try and go to the voting booth.
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2005-01-10, 11:58 AM #21
I'm the better person.

Why? Because I rock.
2005-01-10, 12:05 PM #22
Quote:
Originally posted by Shintock
Me.


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2005-01-10, 1:35 PM #23
Some one who doesn't care.
2005-01-10, 1:37 PM #24
Or you could do option #3.

Know the problem.
Analyze the problem.
Realize that you are not in any kind of a position to do anything about it and don't make life miserable by dwelling on it.
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2005-01-10, 2:10 PM #25
Morf.. well, it is kind of odd that anyone would feel that way. Why? Because person #1 is just a subset of person #2.
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2005-01-10, 3:56 PM #26
Okay, this sums up everyones thoughts. The person who doesn't care about anything going on around him would be more fun to be around. (here comes the controvercial part) The other person is better for society, but less fun to be around.
"You're only supposed to blow the bloody doors off!" Anyone who recognizes this quote is awsome.
2005-01-10, 4:04 PM #27
Someone who cares but is lazy is better than someone who just doesn't care
2005-01-12, 8:14 PM #28
Unfortunately, it's not a given that person #2 knows or understands what he or she is talking about ..
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