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overclocking ram
2004-04-20, 12:43 PM #1
does anyone know if it will endager my ram, in heat or otherwise, if i put a barton 2500+ into my comp, thus overclocking the FSB to 333 (or is it 166, but doubled in the ram?)
currently i have a 256 2100 stick and a 512 2700 stick

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2004-04-20, 12:45 PM #2
I'm sorry, but overclocking, IMHO, is a both stupid and foolish way to get cheap thrills and voided warrenties. *Glares at busted TNT2* Clock speeds are NOT the sole factor in performance.

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2004-04-20, 12:49 PM #3
Uh.. the RAM doesnt have to run at the same speed as the Processors FSB. I'm running a 2800+ barton (333 fsb) and my RAM is PC3200 and runs fine at 400mhz.

However, Running 2 different RAM speeds, you'll either have to overclock the PC2100 to 333mhz or lower the PC2700 to 266.

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2004-04-20, 12:57 PM #4
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">I'm sorry, but overclocking, IMHO, is a both stupid and foolish way to get cheap thrills and voided warrenties. *Glares at busted TNT2* Clock speeds are NOT the sole factor in performance.</font>


Only if you don't know what you're doing or are someone who does it for the same reason people spend $50000 on their honda civics...

If you know what you're doing and are reasonable about it, it's a great way to get extra bang for your buck. I've been running PCs with overclocked processors and video cards for probably the past 6 or 7 years and nothing else.

I wouldn't call having a 2.4 GHz rated P4 C that's running at 250 MHz FSB(which in fact increased my memory bandwidth by 25%) and 3 GHz clock speed is simply for cheap thrills...
2004-04-20, 1:14 PM #5
Well, in most cases, I would say overclocking isn't always taht great. But when you have a processor such as the 2500 Barton, you can't help but no overclock. It's probably one of the best overclocking CPUs out there, and is so cheap.

I really wouldn't recommend overclocking RAM, especially depending on what RAM you have. It also depends on how much you overclock the 2500 too (usually, people get it to 2.2Ghz from about 1.83Ghz), which is 200FSBx11Multiplier. If that's the case, you will want PC3200 RAM, no less.

However, if you go for maybe 175x12 (whcih is like 2.1 I think), then you might be OK with your RAM. Maybe get some heatspreaders for them.

In your case, the PC2100 is useless. Your 2700 you can keep, again, if you don't overclock TOO Much.

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2004-04-20, 1:26 PM #6
its not that im going to OC the barton, it is just that if possible i wanted to run my ram synchronous and neitehr 2100 or 2700 run at barton FSB

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2004-04-20, 1:27 PM #7
its not that im going to OC the barton, it is just that if possible i wanted to run my ram synchronous and neitehr 2100 or 2700 run at barton FSB

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2004-04-20, 1:30 PM #8
So you want your PC2100(DDR266) memory to run at PC2700(DDR333)? Yeah, that's most likely not going to happen. Memory doesn't have much room to run past its rated speed usually, especially that big of a jump. You'd be much better off just buying more PC2700.
2004-04-21, 12:39 AM #9
The only thing even worth overclocking are the processor, and/or the viseo card. Anything else is just not worth it. It won't speed up any apps, if that's what you're looking for. More processor power or more AGP power just means more, well, power for 3D apps, suchs as games and graphics programs. I know becuase I just read up on this stuff... [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif]

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2004-04-21, 4:43 AM #10
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Darth:
So you want your PC2100(DDR266) memory to run at PC2700(DDR333)? Yeah, that's most likely not going to happen. Memory doesn't have much room to run past its rated speed usually, especially that big of a jump. You'd be much better off just buying more PC2700.</font>


It depends on the quality of the ram. Cheap ram, sure, it is not going to run overclocked very well. I have PC2700 ram running just under what PC3200 ram runs at [my ram is crucial, which isn't a great overclocking brand]. The only thing you can really do is test it. Trial and error. I suggest using Prime95 to test stability initially. Once you find a 'stable' level, start testing your games, etc. I have been running my mobile (yes, a mobile processor in a desktop, read about it) 2500+ (rated at 14x133, [1.8xxghz]) at 2.3xxghz [12x195] since the day I bought it. My ram is rated at 333mhz, yet I have it running at 390. Not a full 67mhz increase...but I blame it on crucial.

So, depending on your brand of ram, you might be able to make it to 333, or close to it.

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2004-04-21, 5:04 AM #11
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mystic0:
I'm sorry, but overclocking, IMHO, is a both stupid and foolish way to get cheap thrills and voided warrenties. *Glares at busted TNT2* Clock speeds are NOT the sole factor in performance.

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Not if you know what you're doing, which you showed during the tnt2 overclocking "incident" is not the case. Honestly, please don't give tech advice to other people if you haven't a clue yourself.
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2004-04-21, 5:36 AM #12
IMHO...

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2004-04-21, 11:21 AM #13
I was assuming fairly low quality memory there.

You can sometimes pull that off with stuff like Corsair XMS memory, which seems to be really good at going past its rated limits.

But no, it won't hurt to try really. Just don't expect it to work with your average run of the mill memory.

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