ugh, i told you, im not trying to convince her to have sex with me. If she is attracted to me enough because of what i do that she wants to have sex with me, then thats her thing. Im not sitting there saying "So come on, why dont you wanna have sex with me...blah blah blah" Get real, thats just dumb..

And what moral of my own have i broken?

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"Ahhhh!! I'm Burnin'! I'm Burnin!!!" - Cleaner from Max Payne 2

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I'm not arguing this anymore, I've already repeated myself like 4 times.

I've also already "quit" this thread like 3 times and came back each time, so I guess we'll see how this one goes

All I have to say is that the sad part is that you'll probably be the one to have a wonderful wife and family and I'm going to be a lonely, grumpy old hermit living in an old shack up in Alaska. [/whine]

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[This message has been edited by Correction (edited December 16, 2003).]

I havent said any moral that i have myself broken.... but okay.

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"Ahhhh!! I'm Burnin'! I'm Burnin!!!" - Cleaner from Max Payne 2

K, I've known you for around 3 years now. I've never met you in person, and we haven't had many long discussions, so I don't know you that well. But I feel like I need to say something here as a friend.

It's always seemed to me that you were getting in too deep, too young. I don't claim to be an expert, but it's common knowledge that relationships at such ages rarely last into adulthood and end up in lasting marriages. There are exceptions, but few. Personally, I've never seen the point in getting into a deep relationship at an age where you know it won't last, and will only end up causing pain. And the "high school drama," as you so aptly put it, is just that. It's like flicking a switch and, "ok we're boyfriend/girlfriend now," then flicking it again and "we're not anymore," without much real meaning behind it. But that's just my opinion.

However, having said all that, you've always seemed to be a good guy at heart, and have good intentions.

But I have to say that in this thread, what you've said doesn't sound like you. I'm not quite sure how to say it, but I don't like how you're sounding in this thread (too much like pagewizard, perhaps? ha). I hope you do not do something you will someday regret, even if only because of how it will make you feel someday.

As for the Bible, well, there are parts that should be taken literally, and parts that should be taken figuratively. I believe the part about adultery should be taken literally. But I can't ram my beliefs down your throat. I just hope you'll do the right thing, and that you don't turn to the Dark Side, because some of the things you've said here lean that way.

*high-five blujay*

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*sigh* yeah well, Ive become pretty bitter recently... My last relationship was 3 years... I poured 3 years of my life into someone, gave them everything they could have ever wanted... they knew it too. Why is it that they couldn't give it back in return... Because of people that do what Ive done... people that ruin other peoples lives. She had been abused by her parents... brothers...sisters... raped by her sisters husband... no one ever believed her... She built walls.. I thought i was thru them..

Those people destroyed what would have been a life long relationship for me. There is not a doubt in my mind that I would have married her and lived with her for the rest of my life. But no, because of them... They... THOSE PEOPLE!!! They get to do whatever they want, without ever giving a damn!!! Why should the good people like who i used to be have to suffer because of what THEY do?!?!!....

Im tired of it... I hate being who I am, and I hate being who im not...

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"Ahhhh!! I'm Burnin'! I'm Burnin!!!" - Cleaner from Max Payne 2

Wow. Well. If nothing else, I hope what I said helped you see the problem more clearly.

I can't help you with what you lost. I can't speak for what you feel and how it hurt. But I do know this: You are still quite young. If you're never able to hook up with her again someday, you will meet someone else. But you kind of seem to be at a turning point in your life. Don't change into the wrong kind of person now. What you do now and who you are now may have larger effects someday. Don't make the wrong move and ruin what could be someday. If you take the wrong path now, who you end up with someday might be someone who would cause you even more pain. But if you do the right thing now, you'll be glad someday, and so will the one you meet.

Hope this helps. Good luck, man.

To tell the truth... I dont know what to do anymore... nothing works.

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"Ahhhh!! I'm Burnin'! I'm Burnin!!!" - Cleaner from Max Payne 2

Excuse me whilst I go take both feet out of my mouth.

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Well, I can tell you one thing that always helps: prayer. I don't know how religious you are, or how deep your faith is, but if you will pray to God for help, He will. If you open your heart to Him, good things will happen. When all and everyone else fails, He won't let you down.

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He did worse than let me down... he let her down. The one thing I believed he would have helped with if anything, any of my prayers at all, it should have been the ones I made for her, for me and her... I wanted to help her... to make her life better.


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"Ahhhh!! I'm Burnin'! I'm Burnin!!!" - Cleaner from Max Payne 2

Well, I can't speak for God's plan for her, but it's said that God works in strange ways, and it's true. The Bible also says to give thanks in all circumstances, even difficult ones, even when it's really hard. If she has faith in the Lord, then things will work out for her. If you have faith in the Lord, things will work out for you too.

Here's what I have to say about the whole sex thing. Its sole function is to make babies. You can praddle on how it's pleasurable, an expression of love, etc. but it just makes babies. Many in our society seem to have forgotten that fact.

Props to Mr. blujay. Listen to his words. He speaks of wisdom. I've seen the "high school drama" at it's worst. I went to a rather cliquish high school. The popular girls went through boyfriends as if on an assembly line. Your chances of a life-long relationship working are better when you're in your 20s. By then you start to know just what type of person you are and what you would really like in a mate.

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How could she have faith in God if her life has been so terrible... her parents were jahovas witnesses... she knows God but because of what they are, she wasnt ever taught what we know... She cant have faith in a God she doesnt know, let alone one that would have appeared to abandon her to the demons of her family.

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"Ahhhh!! I'm Burnin'! I'm Burnin!!!" - Cleaner from Max Payne 2

Actually.. High school is MEANT NOT to have 3 year relationships. High School Relationships are meant to be 2 months long, and youre to show no remourse in the ruthlessness of it all. The point of dating at a young age is to FIND OUT WHAT YOU LIKE. If you only go out with 1 girl, how do you know that thats what you really like. It may seem perfect, but you're (I gurrentee it) trying to change some aspect of something. THATS THE POINT. Its finding out what you wish to NOT SEE in a relationship and what you DO WANT TO SEE, so you can find your perfect mate

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Happy "Diseased" dud: You said I'd be like this guy. Boycotting everything..
Happy "Diseased" dud: ted kazcnisky. That's who it was.
Happy "Diseased" dud: Wait, That's the unibomer.
Happy "Diseased" dud: Wrong guy.

AND THEN PROCREATE.. Not during.. AFTER

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Happy "Diseased" dud: You said I'd be like this guy. Boycotting everything..
Happy "Diseased" dud: ted kazcnisky. That's who it was.
Happy "Diseased" dud: Wait, That's the unibomer.
Happy "Diseased" dud: Wrong guy.

Even tho i may be in HS, she was what i wanted... like you said... HS isnt meant for 3 year relationships... but if we managed to last 3 years without ever doing anything, always working thru fights, always being honest... She just had everything i looked for... undescribable.

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"Ahhhh!! I'm Burnin'! I'm Burnin!!!" - Cleaner from Max Payne 2

Anyways... thanks guys... especially you Adam, joining KOP and meeting you as a friend really helped me out... Maybe we can meet up sometime and hang out, maybe we can finally play a game where i can beat you

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"Ahhhh!! I'm Burnin'! I'm Burnin!!!" - Cleaner from Max Payne 2

I'd say something but I'm still choking on my foot :\

I'm really sorry about all of that, sounds like you've had it pretty rough... I'm just glad blujay was here to say just the right things and clean up the mess I made XD

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Dont be so hard on yourself correction... just dont judge people so fast... sometimes they might not be themselves...

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"Ahhhh!! I'm Burnin'! I'm Burnin!!!" - Cleaner from Max Payne 2

(This is all worded too harshly, so kinda dumb it down when you read it) It sounds like you've switched views (right word?), but incase you haven't, Yes, it's true that it isn't fair, but ask yourself: Would you want someone else to go through what you've gone through?

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RIP -MaDaVentor-. You will be missed.

CaveDemon: you crack me up. *kisses his cat on the head* yeah, take it *****! Take it!

KOP_AoEJedi: Just a few things. Don't turn into a womanizer. ALWAYS use protection. Don't blame what happened to your ex on God. Do what blujay said about praying or do some meditating, or writing, or start working out. Something like that.

I pretty much don't have anything against pre-marital sex(if it's in a loving relationship, good. one night stands I suppose are alright as long as it is rare) except when protection is not being used.

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