Alright, I need to vent some much stressed feelings of depreciation. Check this:

My friend that I've known since 2nd grade (I'm 19 1/2 now, he's 20), moves BACK here to Poplar (Superior), WI; after 4 months of living in Kentucky. All goes ok. We start looking for new jobs, looking for a new girlfriend, meeting old friends, and hanging out at clubs. Then, after I let him associate my Counter-Strike RETAIL CD to his own Steam account, ask him to help co-manage a site/forum/guild/clan for a group of numerous games, and help him polish his skills in more of these games (including GIVING him some of my games, not just borrowing), he decides to do the last thing I would have expected.

He takes the clan tag ' *. ' (asterisk-dot), and tells everyone they have to use it as their tag, as well, and starts up a suspiciously SIMILAR clan/group name, with the same Forum layout, etc. He tells me this last night, only 18 hours after we last talked about starting to recruit. I ask him for URL, and confront him about the tag, and such. His response/defense: "well i like it lol" I then proceed to tell him that it doesn't bother me that he wants to start his own clan thing, but I "wish" he'd not use my tag. His response: "playing cant talk"

It seems I've warped back through time to the 2nd grade again, where someone steals someone else's stuff, and claims it as their own. I had, and still do HAVE grand plans for my little guild, but I really need feedback. I don't get it - My introducing him to the genre, the game, the atmosphere, GIVING him my game/CD-Key, letting him CO-MANAGE a group with full access, and all of a sudden, I get the cold shoulder. They say Imitation is a form of flattery. I yield to agree with that.


I think I now know how Steve Jobbs feels. I'm switching to Apple...

...I'm confused as to how this would ruin a friendship to the point of anger. It's an asterisk and a computer game.

I say kick his a**.

I'm with Schming. It's just a game.

Still, Pissed Off?

Yeah, I agree with the poster above... are you sure this is one of those things you should really be getting worked up about?

Ok. I think the point has been missed, entirely. We'll still be friends, it's just the 'concept of it'. It was something I was involved in, had a passion and deep interest in, was building a base for, and he takes it in one fell sw00p, and passes it as his own claiming to be "3lite". And you can't honestly say that if you were working on something that you had expectations for, and one of your best friends and neighbors originally wanted to be co-leader and said he had passion for the group, and just all-of-a-sudden takes off with it, that you wouldn't be just a WEE bit mad. It's like a mate that is assigned to you to do a project, when you build the format, visual presentation, and subject, and your mate copies it and tries to take the credit, thinking he's big-shot at school. It just agitates me, hence, my rant. So please, continue in pseudo-Massassi suit and tell me he should be smacked with a blunt object of some sort. It'll make me feel better.


EDIT: Also, for an alternative view; Say someone uses near-identical formats, styles, artwork, and a name like Massassi's. Sure, it's "just the internet", and it's "just a website", but we'd be pretty pissed, and try to get the person to take down the site, or flame them. I know I would. I have an interest, and would hate to see a sub-par re-incarnation of Massassi be built, or even a better one for that matter. It's Massassi, it's what I am attached to - much as I was attached to my creation.

well kinda sounds like what my friend did to me. i stopped all communication with him.

On 4th of july, 2003...we go out and have a walkie talky so we can communicate w/my mom and aunt if they need us...well, he takes the thing and somehow thinks they can't hear, and starts talking ****....saying stuff like 'i'm going to kill this person' etc...yeah and there's like cops around, and we're with 2 girls and one of them is laughing when he said it and my mom hears and gets on and starts yelling at me....it was funny at the time, but then later, i find out my aunt is highly disturbed by what she heard, and is crying and ****. (reason being, she's a fiance to this guy, who's in jail for hanging out w/the wrong type of people http://home.iprimus.com.au/dna_info/dna/JA_DNA_news_20011203a.html)

So, me being embarrassed, i decide to do as my mother wishes, and stay home after the fireworks display, instead of setting off fireworks w/my friends. Anyways, that causes me to be looked down upon by "friends" and i end up having to take **** like them saying 'dude you're NINE TEEN' you should just blow your parents off' etc....and that would piss me off because the "friend" is 2 years younger than me, and pretty much takes no crap from his parents, and uses everybody for everything...and doesn't do **** for anybody.

anyways...the next year, april 2004, i tell him to come over for my going away party, cause i didn't want to end up getting stuck hanging with older family members, but alas...after reminding him TWICE and getting a 'yeah i'll be there' the day comes, and i call and his mom said she'd tell him when he wakes up...then i call later, and he's with another friend looking at motorcycles and ****...and that left me very very angry.

anyways, i ship to basic, and my parents told me he came over to pick up some of his games...and i'm thinking 'oh..that's right i had invisible war laying on top the tv he must've got that'

I ended up dropping out of basic though i went through all 9 weeks....due to a stupid sinus infection that my lungs never managed to recover from while i was there (got sick day 0....and when i would run i'd get to a point where when i breathed it was hard to do so, and would have to open my mouth and breath through, then my would freeze up or something and i'd sound like a donkey...quite scared me, my run-time increased from 17-20 minutes for the 2 mile runs ) that and my weapon jammed bad on my last chance for qualification, so they were going to send me to another company to week 3, and i decided to go on sick call while in hold-over status so i could get my cough cleared up, the doc put me on a frekin 10 day no-pt code and had me sent to the hospital for a check to see if i had asthma...i ended up not having asthma, and i missed shipping to that other company, so I was sent home. Gonna try to give it another try later this year if I can get in as an MP in the reserves.


Anyways, I get back, and he came over while i was gone at basic training and 'stole' like 9 of my xbox games, and decides to let his other friend borrow them....when i get back, my parents are pissed off at him and get on my case about me hanging out with him since he's such a ***** so i managed to get back only 1 of the games he 'stole' (morrowind goty)....and i just completely stop hanging out with him. and get this, he decides to call on christmas asking to borrow a controller. i lied and said i only had 1, and i couldn't hang out cause i had bronchitis. haven't talked to him since. And i'm better off. Note: i've known this guy since i was in 4th grade. guess it was just a matter of time before he screwed me over. =\

Lost One, I hear you. Not to put my friend down, intentionally, but this is the truth: He does use and doesn't give back. However, that's my impression. (But it seems to carry evidence, dammit!!)

Voted killing.

I understand what you are going through lightside. I have a friend who was sorta like that but we were younger when it happened. Eventually we got over it and became friends again.

I'll kill him for a small fee if your interested...

/methinks I should have added "Blunt Object" as an option.


Well, he just invited me to go hang out, maybe I can b17ch at him, now and get the rest of my anger out. I'll be back to this thread though. Guaranteed.

Avenger: Stealer of my thoughts.

Challenge him to a CS e-duel, winner takes all.

Cancel his CD-key

The game has ruined your friendship. Just like Halo2 ruined the friendships I used to have. Suddenly they had Xbox Live and could play Halo2 with all their cool friends, but their friend who moved away and is in university all by himself and can't get xbox live is excluded and forgotten.

Clearly he hates you and loves his new cooler CS friends more. Just like my friends love Halo2 more. I say that you have to make new friends. This time, get friends you can control better.

It seems that about the only thing Steam can do reliably is ruin friendships.

I didn't read the whole story, but I still say kill the son of a *****.

I'm back. I b17ch3d, and he looked shameful. And as I stated earlier, this does NOT or WILL NOT ruin our friendship. I spared his CS gaming because I am merciful. I told him he was a putz, and good-luck with his new clan. The venting finally got through in verbal form to the source. Oh, well, time for a new name.... :|

That is why you insert a little thingy in there that can PROVE you made something, but it's usually too hard for someone to find/they won't go through the trouble to find it.

EX: Remember aocowner? Remember when he claimed a high poly TIE Fighter model of his own? Well when we found the original creator, he revealed that in a screenshot aocowner showcased, the original creator's name was visible if you zoomed in in JUST the right place on the pic. It was wonderful.

Seriously... think about how petty this really is in the scheme of things, and get over it.

No offense intended. It's just not worth getting worked up about by a long shot.

one thing leads to another. well in my case anyways...that's why i have no friends. i always get left out, and i always feel second best. **** em.