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Full Metal Jacket
2005-02-07, 8:51 PM #1
You know, as I sit here watching Full Metal Jacket, knowing that I love this movie, I have had an amazing revalation. This movie has no plot. It's just following these men through a series of events. The conflict is within the men. I think this is really quite amazing. There is no external conflict in the narrative... I mean obviously there is conflict... You know... It's Vietnam... but there is no "bad guy" in this movie. It's all about inner conflict, and I think that's really amazing stuff.

I dunno... post your thoughts or something...
>>untie shoes
2005-02-07, 8:56 PM #2
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This is for fighting, this is for fun!





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The first half of the movie was gold, the second was almost as good, but not equal. As a whole, the movie is very memorable, quoteable, and will stand the test of time.
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2005-02-07, 9:03 PM #3
Yeah good idea, Timewolf. Post your favorite lines.

"Hey, Photographer. Wanna take a good picture? Here man, take this. This, is my bro. This is his party. He's the guest of honor. Today is his birthday. I will never forget this day. The day I came to whey city and fought one million nva g**ks. I love the little commie bastards, man, I really do. These enemy grunts are as hard as slant-eyed drill instructors. These are great days we're livin' bros! We are jolly green giants, walking the earth, with guns! These people we wasted here today, are the finest human beings we will ever know. After we rotate back to the world we're gonna miss not havin' anyone around as we're shootin'."

My favorite part.
>>untie shoes
2005-02-07, 10:25 PM #4
My favourite quote? Anything that came out of the mouth of Sgt. Hartman
2005-02-07, 11:23 PM #5
The "bad guy" in the first half of the movie is the drill instructor, in a sense. He's the source of all the conflict while they are in boot camp. At the end of the movie, the "bad guy" is the sniper who killed a few of the marines.
Pissed Off?
2005-02-08, 12:45 AM #6
Meh. War films rarely have a real story (in a conventional manner), they're more like character studies.

Saving Private Ryan for instance, doesn't really have a story. The whole let's-go-get-the-surviving-brother thing is just an excuse for the set-pieces. The closest thing to a villain I suppose is the Nazi at the end who kills a few of the main characters . I remember we were debating (or was it at TACC?) whether or not it was the same Nazi that was captured and released earlier on in the movie.

Platoon doesn't have a real story either, but Tom Berenger is definately the villain.
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2005-02-08, 12:48 AM #7
Platoon is sort of Dafoe versus Berringer... know what I mean?
>>untie shoes
2005-02-08, 12:50 AM #8
War ist the villain
2005-02-08, 1:02 AM #9
Quote:
Originally posted by AKPiggott
I remember we were debating (or was it at TACC?) whether or not it was the same Nazi that was captured and released earlier on in the movie.

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Steamboat Willie was back (shot Miller). Different guy killed Mellish.
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2005-02-08, 4:23 AM #10
I didn't used to think so, but yeah you're right Avenger.
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2005-02-08, 5:39 AM #11
"How can you shoot women and children?"

"You just lead 'em a little less."
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2005-02-08, 7:43 AM #12
Most of Full Metal Jacket was improv and ad-libbed... there really wasnt much of a set script for the actors to follow. There was a general outline for the movie, so they new what they had to accomplish in each scene, but other than that they were left to say pretty much whatever they wanted. This is probably one of the main reasons there is no overall storyline.
2005-02-08, 8:01 AM #13
Quote:
Originally posted by kyle90
"How can you shoot women and children?"

"You just lead 'em a little less."


This quote is gold, and Molgrew has a point.
Looks like we're not going down after all, so nevermind.
2005-02-08, 4:24 PM #14
Quote:
Originally posted by Avenger
The "bad guy" in the first half of the movie is the drill instructor, in a sense. He's the source of all the conflict while they are in boot camp. At the end of the movie, the "bad guy" is the sniper who killed a few of the marines.



You forgot the other "bad guy", the Army.
2005-02-08, 4:27 PM #15
This comes after Saving Private Ryan, which comes after BOB in my list of favorite war movies.

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2005-02-08, 5:20 PM #16
Quote:
Originally posted by DSettahr
Most of Full Metal Jacket was improv and ad-libbed... there really wasnt much of a set script for the actors to follow. There was a general outline for the movie, so they new what they had to accomplish in each scene, but other than that they were left to say pretty much whatever they wanted. This is probably one of the main reasons there is no overall storyline.


That's pretty cool, in a sense that makes the acting a bit more realistic since it's less scripted right?

This movie sounds pretty good, but it's old right? So there is a chance that it's shown on TV?

Quote:
This is my rifle, this is my gun!

This is for fighting, this is for fun!

Is that from the movie or is that something Family Guy made up?
2005-02-08, 5:40 PM #17
Quote:
Originally posted by Cloud

This movie sounds pretty good, but it's old right? So there is a chance that it's shown on TV?


Yes, it's frequently on the movie channels (ie. Encore and Starz!).

Quote:
Originally posted by Cloud

Is that from the movie or is that something Family Guy made up?


Someone else respond to this, I might kill him if I read it again.
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2005-02-08, 6:01 PM #18
Cloud - That's from FMJ. Great line.
2005-02-08, 6:23 PM #19
It's a marching tune.
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2005-02-08, 6:52 PM #20
I can't sit through that movie. I've tried multiple times... I can't do it.
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2005-02-08, 7:00 PM #21
Quote:
Originally posted by phoenix_9286
I can't sit through that movie. I've tried multiple times... I can't do it.


It picks up a lot after they graduate from bootcamp.
2005-02-08, 7:42 PM #22
Cloud - They say that line as their marching along with their hands on their groins.
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2005-02-08, 8:26 PM #23
Some many great quotes from this movie, and mearly none of them are postable here.

"Anyone who runs is V.C. Anyone who stands still is well-disciplined V.C. "

Marines: [chanting] This is my rifle. There are many like it but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. Without me, my rifle is useless. Without my rifle I am useless. I must fire my rifle true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy, who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will. Before God I swear this creed: my rifle and myself are defenders of my country, we are the masters of my enemy, we are the saviors of my life. So be it, until there is no enemy, but peace. Amen.
Pissed Off?
2005-02-08, 8:45 PM #24
I think it actually gets boring after the bootcamp scene, but it was still interesting. Does anyone know the name of that song that they play during part of the vietnam scenes? One part during the song has a camera crew or something walking along sides of soldiers that are sitting down.

Or if it helps more it's the really fast-paced song. Frickin catchy. >_<
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2005-02-09, 2:31 AM #25
The Trashmen - Surfin' Bird?
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2005-02-09, 3:07 AM #26
Yes thank you!

I can't believe those are the lyrics.. :eek:
"We came, we saw, we conquered, we...woke up!"
2005-02-10, 4:09 AM #27
too big ... :D

:eek:
STFU n00b...>.<
2005-02-11, 2:02 AM #28
Quote:
Originally posted by CavEmaN
You forgot the other "bad guy", the Army.


Umm, weren't they Marines? Anyway, enjoyable beginning that turns to rubbish.
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2005-02-11, 4:53 AM #29
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2005-02-11, 6:33 AM #30
MMmm, good.
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2005-02-11, 11:52 AM #31
Quote:
Originally posted by Jedigreedo
Does anyone know the name of that song that they play during part of the vietnam scenes? One part during the song has a camera crew or something walking along sides of soldiers that are sitting down.

Or if it helps more it's the really fast-paced song. Frickin catchy. >_<


This movie is the resaon that song in in BF:V.
Pissed Off?
2005-02-11, 12:04 PM #32
The whole bootcamp thing was ripped off excessively in Opposing Force and Pacific Assault too.
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2005-02-11, 4:54 PM #33
Quote:
Originally posted by Wookie06
Umm, weren't they Marines? Anyway, enjoyable beginning that turns to rubbish.


Marine corps, Army, Navy, Coast Guard, Mickey Mouse Cadets, all the same to me.
2005-02-11, 5:04 PM #34
Your corps!


My corps!



MARINE CORPS!
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2005-02-11, 6:43 PM #35
Quote:
Originally posted by jEDIkIRBY
comes after BOB in my list of favorite war movies.

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respect ++;
2005-02-11, 8:35 PM #36
Quote:
Originally posted by CavEmaN
Marine corps, Army, Navy, Coast Guard, Mickey Mouse Cadets, all the same to me.


Air Force too?

>_<;;; I'll say nothing more...
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2005-02-11, 8:44 PM #37
Nah, msot people here know all about the Air Force because of Stargate. :p
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2005-02-11, 8:45 PM #38
Quote:
Originally posted by Avenger
Nah, msot people here know all about the Air Force because of Stargate. :p


again with the >_<;;; hehe :)
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2005-02-11, 11:00 PM #39
Quote:
Originally posted by quesadilla_red
Air Force too?

>_<;;; I'll say nothing more...



Nah, they're more like the girl guides. ;)

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