So Valve released 2 new maps today. The train map, which sucked then, and sucks in a very visually pleasing way now.

The other map is hard to tell, but I enjoy it myself. We'll have to see after some extensive play through. I do enjoy the wide open feel to it, and the possibility for many different approaches from both teams.

But worse, and absolutelly horrible is the new CT skin. Now, all in all, it isn't a bad skin. What IS bad, is that they obviously rushed it. The textures are blurry, the face is milky (Completelly confusing since the hostages have fantastic skin tones), the arms clip into the football like vest. The helmet also looks like a football player's helmet (And is horribly shiney) and the worst part of all is that the neck is pencil-like, long, and has 3 joins in it. 3.

I personally didn't really like the TERRORIST skin when I first played CSS. The CS skin, however, was one of my favorites in a game. Now they've taken it for a horrible turn for the worse.

Isn't there a way to install skins that only you can see?

JediKirby

I like the new skin. Also, I like the fact that you're taller now. You can jump to some places a little easier and you don't feel like a runt when you stand next to the hostages.

the problem i have it is looks MUCH uglier than the original default not to mention the default model AFTER a good skin is added...

Well at least he wears the goggles now!

Anyone got screen grabs to help us non source engine capable decide?

Hard to take a picture.. people won't stay still.
Bad lighting too.. oh well.
[url]www.netrauma.com/pics/ct.jpg[/url]

right image now..

Updating now, but it doesn't look too bad from the screenshots. The visor actually looks pretty cool.

What I really want is more damage-specific blood spatterings. I thought that was really quite cool, if a guy had been shot in the arms and legs, you'd see patters of blood on his arms and legs. If this was more pronounced you could see visually how much damage you did to an opponent that killed you, and also see how teammates had gone through huge battles. And also you could study the corpses of teammates for clues - if they were riddled with bullets all over, they were likely killed by some sort of automatic machine gun or by someone that can't aim very well, if there's only one or two shots you know they probably have an AWP or something powerful like that, and if the corpses just have headshots, you know... well, that you're screwed.

Is that the new one? Doesn't look to bad to me - but that said my laptop is seriously underpowered and couldn't handle the source engine anyway

Ha, the moment my brother and I saw the new CT's we we're like WTF IS THIS?!

someone explain to me how steam updates stuff - just installed

So I'm the only one who likes the new CT skin? I mean, come on, it's got that cool radio now!

Looks cool but ive yet to get these update things

Steam updates automatically when you log in.

Steam does.. but you have to click on the game to update them.

I like train and the new skin. The new hostage map (don't recognize it from 1.6), I've yet to formulate an opinion, as I've only played it once.

I don't really like compound.
It's too open for my likings.. At any moment its pretty much possible for an enemy to sneak around and attack you from the back... or snipe you from a distance.

Those shots someone posted are all from good angles. Get a completelly side angle, and you'll see how poorly the noded the model. Not to mention, if you get a dead shot, their ragdoll necks have 3. Freaking. Joints.

JediKirby

I don't see what you're talking about, kIRBY.

Haha Mort. I love it. And here I thought CS was all twitch and no thinking.

I personally like the skin, but can someone show me what the original one looked like... and what do the suffixs on maps mean like de_?

de_ = defusal
cs_ = Hostage
as_ = assassination
es_ = escape

Ehh I don't like the new model either. Just doesn't seem like a quality job.

Train is great, the remake looks fantastic and plays better. The few new pathes and areas add some more subtle hiding places and great flow to an already great old-school map.

Compound (?) is ok, but I don't like the placement of the hostages.

Oh well.

cs is hostage rescue (accomplished by CT) , de is demmolition (accomplished by T) accomplishing either wins the round for the team, regaurdless of people alive. Although if the CT defuse the bomb they win.
Just search google for CT. It's old enough there should be plenty of shots.

well comparing the new model/skin with the default model with this skin you can see why i hate the new model

http://img207.exs.cx/img207/3220/spetsnaz22fm.jpg

this model is too chunky and solider-ofthefuture-y. IMO

plus i was just noticing it has nasty clipping issues... on the steam forums someone posted a link to the original model

Yeah, VERY nasty clipping issues.

if you have the source SDK open up the model viewer for CS:S open up this:
go to Player folder and then load CT_OS.mdl you can get a better look at the new CT model.

annnnnd

Load T_OS.mdl That ones pretty nifty. I like it better than the current one.

His vest says "Homo" backwards.

I looked at the new CT in model viewer and I like it in there. The clipping seems less, and there's no shadows from the shoulderpads. In game, however, the shoulderpads create an ugly shadow in the arms, and for some reason, they clip further in while in-game.

The new T model looks retarded. I don't like the beige. Otherwise, it's ok. The current T model doesn't look how a 'terrorist' should. Niether does the new one, but it's more realistic.

JediKirby

The shading on the skin looks horrible. They look dead already. Looks like he has huuuge pores, or like he'd been horribly pockmarked from smallpox or something. The helmet would look better if it would be more matte too. Why would anyone want the sun glinting off of their noggin if they want to be discreet? I've only seen those types of helmets on some paratroopers or skydivers.

Technically, it says "Nomo" backwards. (H=N in the cyrillic alphabet)

Forgot the pic.

holy messed up normal maps batman!

While the new CS content is nice and all (although I haven't played it yet)... mind if I do a slight hi-jack of this thread and ask WHERE THE HELL IS DAY OF DEFEAT: SOURCE? It's been nearly 3 months now and that game hasn't been released yet.

And when it's released, my pants will explode and I will skip school to play all day. I am a DOD addict. I snort the stuff.

I seriously hope they make it all that it needs to be.

By the way Savage, long time no see! How's life? You should talk to me on MSN jEDIkIRBY007@hotmail.com or AIM xone009!

JediKirby

Didnt they just release like 18 new shots from DOD:S?