Mikus wins

so why fear the athiest teachings if you have a 4 year head start? that's my point. and if you send them to a religious school, why fear? we're just athiests walking around minding our own business until you put the ten commandments in front af a building i helped pay for (theorhetically). and then when they are asked to be taken down, there seems to be a fear of athiesm in a public forum.
i don't get it. what's the fear of atheism? i can only assume the fear is the finding out of truth. :/ or else you wouldn't care if athiests taught in public schools to athiest children (or those religious followers who choose to send their kids to public school and then it's their choice to do so).

it seems you are afraid of athiests or i am reading your posts with the wrong connotations and meanings.

True.

Athiests are always trying to give facts to prove the absence of God. Why does it matter so much? Seriously, Christianity, if it's founded on false principles (I'm just saying this, personally I believe there is a God, and Jesus, etc etc) isn't the worst 'hobby' to have. Hell, being a priest isn't a bad position at all. Especially when the majority of people in the US believe in this 'malarky'.

And as far as I know, the only two 'forms' of Christianity (and that term is used very, very loosely) which have people come door to door asking you to join their religion are Jehova's Witnesses, and Mormons. And most other major forms of Christianity (Catholics, Lutherans, Methodists, Baptists) don't really consider Mormonism a veritable Christian religion at all (no offense to the Mormons on the board, but it's true in my experiences here, and in about 5 other towns) for differing reasons (not getting into that).

Also, Evad, Baptism has nothing to do with teaching a child about God. If nothing else...it's just a little water.

Mikus loses.

i didn't say anything about baptism. IRG SithLord did. i said the religions want the kids in church the day after they are born. that gives them 4 years head start.

atheists (as well as many religious followers) are always trying to prove scientific theory. only in a few cases does that mean a contradiction to the bible and it's stories.
when i watch the discovery channel, i have never heard the jay ingrahm state that scientist have proven a theory that disproves the existence of god.
on the contrary, i see that many religious followers are threatened by the work and want to uphold the biblical stories in a way that may be detrimental to the persuit of science.
and there was a guy once that wanted to bring the word of god to the micro organisms on mars when clinton made the announcement that life had existed there. there was a fear that somehow this would disprove the creation theory.
hilarious.

Freelancer -> Then what is Sithlord talking about?

Here's the table I referred to: http://www.usconstitution.net/constframedata.html

I apologize if I'm doing something incorrectly here. I have a nasty headache so I'm not examining things as closely as usual, but I'm doing my best.

Edit:

Evad: It's not a fear of atheism because honestly, I have the same problem with professors and politics. It's not really about the presentation itself, but the intention in the presentation and the matter in which it is presented (ie. bias).

If I'm not making any sense just stop me and I'll come back tomorrow or saturday. I'm finding it difficult to focus on anything at the moment.

No, I mean I've had athiests (not just the minority) come up to me and go "Do you believe in God? Here's why you shouldn't" and force their retarded bull**** on me.

And as long as I've been a part of the Christian faith, I've never heard that after they're born bull****. Even I would say that's retarded. It doesn't really matter when a child goes in--until they hit their teens. But even then, the choice should be up to them.

That's what I hate about families that are "OMGCHRIST". Think about it--they force their kids into some complex, usually stupid religion sect which the kids then have to believe it is more right than anything else (mainly a rant against Catholicism, fyi) when they should just wait till the kids are old enough to understand, and set down what Christianity is, and what their beliefs are, and let the kid choose for themselves.

Then again, I'm not a parent, so I'm not about to tell people how to raise their children. I'll just rant about it in an online forum for an 8 year old Star Wars game.

that i understand. i've had some of the same experiences.

me too. lol!!

What about it?
Okay, I was wrong, there are some laws in christianity:
1: Love God with all your heart, mind, and soul.
2: Love Your Neighbor as Yourself.


An athieistic society and a society for athiests aren't the same things.
The government and the church should stay the hell away from each other, they corrupt each other.


Relax, he's not telling you what to believe.


I don't get it. The second, third, and fourth sentences contradict the premise.


Agreed, in general, but some athiests take it to the point where they do practically turn it into a religion. For example, the South Park episode where the parents all become athiests.


From the Episcopalians I've met, their church is very united. They almost split up over the issue of slavery, but didn't. Now it seems they might split up over gay rights.
The Episcopalians I've met are liberal, like me. They believe that the words of Jesus are all that really matter, the rest of the bible doesn't matter too much.