Religious fanatics strike again.

They're hoping to find Noah's ark. If they do, so what?

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Not necessarily, Pagewizard.

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Genesis 22:2-5 - And God said unto Abraham "You must kill your son, Isaac." And Abraham said "What? I can't hear you! You'll have to speak into the microphone." And God said "Check, check, check, check. Jerry, can you pull the high end out. I'm getting some hiss up here."
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well, it would give all the athiests a kick in the crotch...



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Old aunts used to come up to me at weddings, poking me in the ribs and cackling, telling me, "You're next." They stopped after I started doing the same thing to them at funerals.

how do you figure? If they do find the ark on top of the mountain, it would prove that the flood really happened b/c how else would you get a boat of that size up there? It had to float up there (meaning that the water level was at the altitude where the ark sits) or it wouldn't be up there at all. This thing is about 700 feet long and 3 decks high.

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It would prove a story correct, but that doesn't automatically prove there's a God (unfortunately).

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Genesis 22:2-5 - And God said unto Abraham "You must kill your son, Isaac." And Abraham said "What? I can't hear you! You'll have to speak into the microphone." And God said "Check, check, check, check. Jerry, can you pull the high end out. I'm getting some hiss up here."
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How do you know it's 700 hundred feet long and 3 decks high? You read the blueprints?

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Ugh. how many times have they tried this? I'm really getting sick of it, and i'm religious.

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In the Bible, where we read about Noah's ark, it is written exactly what size the ark was to be, what materials, and contstruction time.

The units of measure were questionable, even if it came from God. Those older measurement units were inconsistent.

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Genesis 22:2-5 - And God said unto Abraham "You must kill your son, Isaac." And Abraham said "What? I can't hear you! You'll have to speak into the microphone." And God said "Check, check, check, check. Jerry, can you pull the high end out. I'm getting some hiss up here."
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I.E. Cubits = Length of the elbow to wrist, i think, but coming from God, i think he has the means to make it acurate

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Yeah, but the length between whose elbow and wrist? How do we know how long a cubit was when God told Noah to build the ark?
We don't.
Maybe it was Noah's elbow to wrist.
In any case, I doubt God was concerned with exact dimensions.

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Genesis 22:2-5 - And God said unto Abraham "You must kill your son, Isaac." And Abraham said "What? I can't hear you! You'll have to speak into the microphone." And God said "Check, check, check, check. Jerry, can you pull the high end out. I'm getting some hiss up here."
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Even if they were to find "the" ark, it would but only prove that a great flood did take place, and that someone made an ark. I'd be more interested in if they actually found any proof that, A.) it carried animals, B.) a guy called Noah built it, and C.) that God told him to build it. Just finding a big boat means absolutely nothing.

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Well, i mean that, considering that the directions came form God, he would have taken into account such trivialities as to the cubit in reference to Noah's dimentions.

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Oh, jsut for the sake of clarity, i am jsut reponding to posts as sort of a devil's advocate. i don't belive in the Noah story, beyond it being a metaphor.

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Isn't that kinda what I just said?

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Genesis 22:2-5 - And God said unto Abraham "You must kill your son, Isaac." And Abraham said "What? I can't hear you! You'll have to speak into the microphone." And God said "Check, check, check, check. Jerry, can you pull the high end out. I'm getting some hiss up here."
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I have yet to hear an OT story that I think is a just that instead of being true.

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Yeah, probably. Bah. Whatever.

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Well, if it were found, then a great flood would have had to take place, which proves at least one thing in the Bible for sure, therefore suggesting the truth of other things in The Bible, not saying it will for everyone, but a logical mind would think that there might be more truth.


But yeah, the whole thing in general is kind of Silly, and, I too, am Christan.

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The mountain could have developed after the boat got stuck in there you know. Maybe it get stuck on a small hill but earthquakes and landmass movement shifted everything around.

Maybe some ancient larrikin had a read of the bible and decided to to build something on the moutain to screw with all the future zealots.

Or of course it could have been the same aliens that built the pyramids

Even if they find do anything, all it shows is that a boat got stuck on a mountain. It doesn't prove anything other than that there was a boat on a mountain. It appears our ark-huting friends skipped their classes on research methodology.

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The mountain could have developed after the boat got stuck in there you know. Maybe it get stuck on a small hill but earthquakes and landmass movement shifted everything around.</font>[/quote]Wouldn't that destroy it?

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...um... I think I know what you're saying... but not entirely sure...

Have you read Job? That is one book of the Bible where the writer was on crack rocks.

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YOu know the story of Noah's ark wasn't just in the Bible. There have been stories of great floods where only one man survives on a boat all over the world. (I'm pretty sure)
There was actually a Babylonian (sp?) myth with the exact same plot.

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It was on Family Guy. I'm not sure if I got the wording exactly right or not, though.
As far as I can tell, the whole book is an analogy to physical stuff in general (astronomy, anatomy, whatever). For example, Job 10:11 says "Thou hast clothed me with skin and flesh, and hast fenced me with bones and sinews." Obviously, the guy wasn't wearing clothes of skin, flesh, bones, and tendons... at least I hope not.

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Genesis 22:2-5 - And God said unto Abraham "You must kill your son, Isaac." And Abraham said "What? I can't hear you! You'll have to speak into the microphone." And God said "Check, check, check, check. Jerry, can you pull the high end out. I'm getting some hiss up here."
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No I haven't and I don't doubt it.

let me just make sure we are on the same wavelength: I think OT are just stories, not truth. Except for the Moses part. I think that is exaggerated truth.

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Starting with Moses, the OT was written by the people in the stories.

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Genesis 22:2-5 - And God said unto Abraham "You must kill your son, Isaac." And Abraham said "What? I can't hear you! You'll have to speak into the microphone." And God said "Check, check, check, check. Jerry, can you pull the high end out. I'm getting some hiss up here."
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Strange, I just watched a National Geographic movie about Noah's flood being real yesterday.

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The flood could've been real, and the flood coudl've formed the mountain alot by erosian as the waters left.

Just because a guy builds a boat and fills it with a bunch of animals though does not mean there is a God. True, it's written the he claims God spoke to him..but Ralph Wiggum says a Leprechaun tells him to burn things, and we've actually SEEN said leprechaun in the episode!

If they find God's driver license though lemme know.

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Then they strengthen their own faith. I'm sorry that you interpret the strength of their faith as fanaticism.

Darn, you beat me to it - but I'm glad you mentioned it. Yes, there was actually a Sumerian tale of a famed warrior and his adventures, in which the gods flooded the earth. The Babylonians, however, were the ones to actually write it down, and so became the Epic of Gilgamesh.

And you are also right about this story reiterating itself all over the world. Hundreds of cultures (uncluding Indian Buddhists or Hindus) have chronicled a "great flood" in their histories, all over the world. With this evidence and the analysis of sedimentary layers, I honestly think there is no denying that there was a t some point, a great flood.

The question is, which account is the most accurate, and was God truly involved? I personally believe so, but others might feel inclined to think otherwise, and they are perfectly entitled. I am merely pointing out that there almost certainly, had to have been a great flood, at some point.



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I'm somehow skeptical that Noah is my great^250 grandfather, and I doubt that Pagewizard is my 10 millionth cousin 82 times removed. It's not that I doubt the power of God, it's just that we life forms tend to do quite poorly if our dad is our half-brother.

hmm... now if I could only find my Indiana Jones outfit.

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Not necessarily, I doubt it would have left it intact though. Its like how though find fossils in rocks.

On that babylonian myth: they did the same trick with the bird, except they released a raven instead of dove. Most religions have flood stories, but they all happen at different times so either all the gods were really aggro or someone just flogged the idea.

Cheetahs don't seem to have a problem...

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You don't have to find a boat up a mountain to measure water level.
If the water level did rise greatly then various fish and whatnot would have risen with it, and then you'd find the fossils of the dead creatures half-way up the mountains.
I don't know, but I'd assume that such a flood must have had some effect on tree formations, or glaciers, or earth compositions or some other very slow-forming geological events that could be measured or observed.

But anyway, whether or not any of these events actually occured is irrelevant. The point of the Bible is not to act as a history text book, but to spread the word of God as told through Jesus Harold Christ, and Jesus liked fables and stories and metaphors and thatwhat.
I really think that those seeking out such religious relics need to ask themselves 'Is this what God would want?', and I don't see why He would want that. at all.

He told you?
He told THEM



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Wrong. It was a flood. It didn't last hundreds of years. If it did last hundreds of years, THEN you might find some fish fossils baried in the EARTH.

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