This is how it would have happened. Episode 1 would have started out with Anikan being the age of Luke in A NEW HOPE. He would remain around this age for all three movies (to stay true to the original series)... Anikan would have been a good Jedi, learning from Obi-Wan. This would make since, because Obi Wan says later that Anikan was "a good friend". In episode 3, Anikan would be fighting in front of the emperor, and the emporor pulls the same crap on anikan that he pulls on luke in RotJ. (taunting him to strike him down) not only would this be a good reason for the emporor to use this tactic in RotJ (because it worked for his father.. like father, like son) but it would have also added much more power when you go back and watch RotJ when luke says "You have Failed your heiness.. I am a Jedi, like my father before me".. you'd be like "**** YEAH!"

I mean, I liked the Episode 3 trailer as much as the next guy, but Anikan seems to be "searching out the dark side" rather than being corrupted by it.... he's like walking all up to Palpatine and is all like....

"Hey, teach me how to do some of those cool tricks.. c'mon.. please?!"


Also, Jar Jar wouldn't be in there... neither would midi-chlorians.... the baby jedis would be gone, and the cgi yoda would be non-exsistant.

Hmph. What use would there be for the prequels if they were just the same as the sequels, just with different characters?

Anakin's and Luke's motives are quite different. Anakin already expressed earlier, quite clearly, how ambitious he is considering the Force. When he was so easily defeated by Count Dooku, it must have been quite a shattering moment for his big ego. It seems quite natural he would like to learn more about such power, even voluntarily.

I think you are seeking for far simpler movies, Spiral, than even Lucas wants to make. You should broaden your views by watching something else than Hollywood action flicks, for a change.

that was a rather uncalled for personal attack... actually, i don't even like action.. i am more of a comedy and horror type guy

The first thing I'd get rid of is that Chosen One prophecy rubbish. It's basically a cheap thematic tactic to make a film seem more biblical and allegorical than it actually is, as well as a lazy method to establish how powerful/super/mega/awesome a character is.

I hated it in the prequels, and I hated it in the Matrix trilogy.

Everyone goes on about that "You were the Chosen One!" line in the trailer, I admit it sounds very powerful and damning and all that, but on the otherhand it also reminds me of this sloppy plot device. It would've been better if Obi-Wan said something along the lines of "You were my friend!" (but not as childish).

I'd make the Empire win in RotJ. Of course among many other things, but that's the most important one.

I agree that it's pretty cheap. However, there is another reason for it. The Jedi and Jedi council, the whole establishment, has been there already for quite a long time. It's not anymore, seemingly, just corcerned about practical things. Maybe this whole Chosen One affair is some kind of religious thing for the Jedi, something that has been mulled over for hundreds of years. For people in that position, it could be far easier to believe in it than it's for us, the audience. In that sense, it doesn't need to make sense.

Actually, the prophecy of "The Chosen One" has been mentioned many times in the Expanded Universe. I don't think it's some plot device... I think it actually fits into the whole saga. Before the Jedi Order 25,000 years ago, the first Jedi were philosophers and prophesized that a Chosen One would come and bring balance to the force.

If I could pick any moment in the Star Wars timeline and make it into a set of movies, and would choose what Lucas is doing. It's probably the most important part of Star Wars history, showing the Sith coming to power and finally defeating the Jedi (which they've been trying for 25,000 years), the Chosen One being born, and the bringing of balance to the force. That's why you'll never see any Sith in books after the original trilogy... the force is balanced because of Anakin (or his son, to be exact) brought balance to the force by destroying the physical entity of the dark side.

Anyway, I can't wait for EP3.

I only wish they would have gotten rid of Hayden Christiansen. They could have explained by saying he got older, or had plastic surgery, or just not explain it at all. It still would have been better. Hayden is probably the worst actor I have ever seen. And he's just so whiny.

You're one to talk.

You people throw more stones at each other than Ewoks throw at stormtroopers.

uhm, hello? he doesnt just improv that. the character is suppoed to whine. did you see ANH? half of it is luke whining like a little *****. like father like son. it doesnt matter what actor they would have chosen.

That doesn't add up.

By destroying the physical entity of the dark side, you are creating an unbalanced force.

Before palpatine dies, lets say the Light side is +2 and the Dark side is -2.

At the end of ROTJ Vader kills Palpatine and then returns to the light side himself before he dies. That would make Light side +2, Dark side 0

Thats not balanced, at all.

That's one thing that I always questioned too.

I believe it may suggest an even stronger evil entity.

Or that George Lucas can't freaking write...

it brought balence because luke had to go kill all the clones of Palp... ¬_¬

i guess its balanced in the idea that you dont want any evil in the universe. not like an equation or something. just balance in the way like peace and stuff. or just how it was at the beginning or something. possibly the creation of evil is what created the [un?]balance of the force.

Eh, while the line might be cliched, the whole epic of Star Wars is a cliche of an epic. A hero, a journey away from home, battle against odds, etc. One more cliche in that grand cliche could not hurt it that much.

The only thing that always made me go hmm in Ep I was the whole "Anakin was conceived" crap. That just made it seem too much like a rip of the bible.

But hey, I liked the first two though!

In a way, I wish it happened too, but how would you end the movie on a good note? The empire is still there, but the rebellion is now smashed again.

I was thinking of watching Ep1 and writing all of things that I would have changed . . . I might do that. It was so lame in certain parts.

Although grossly simplified, I think that if you expandedo n that, it could [have] made for a very good trilogy. I'm not feeling nerdy enough at the moment to type out my version of how "it should have been" but I will say that axing Jar Jar is the first step to a better trilogy of ANYTHING.

I think it would have been tight if Qui-Gon grabbed dropped a tree on Jar Jar with the force when Jar Jar first started harassing him. "Mesa owes you a life deb-aaaaaiiiieeeeeeeeeyyyIIPPPP!! *Smeck*

You would have thought that the Jedi Council would have seen something wrong with 'Balance' in the force.

There are like 700,000,000,000 Jedi Masters and like 3 Sith Masters..WHAT THE HELL DO YOU THINK BALANCING THE FORCE WILL DO!?!

[yoda]All the Jedi getting murdered you should have seen![/yoda]

Eh? I wasn't complaining that the line was a cliche.. I was complaining about the whole "Chosen One" nonsense, I have no problem with the line itself (no matter how cliched it is), it's just that it references an incredibly daft plot point for me.



The only good thing about that is that it adds more to Anakin's relationship with Obi-Wan (and later, Palpatine) as a father figure.

Mark Hammel isn't the greatest of actors either. I just can't believe that the future Darth Vader would whine. If he whines when he's in the suit I will be very ticked off. Maybe the voice thing will cover it up.

Has anyone noticed that going to the dark side in SW involves being more of a jerk than any normal person would be. I would think it's be a bit subtler. Such as making your self look good while doing bad things underneath. Instead the Dark Side seems to have to do with things like developing acute grouchiness, and killing anyone who annoys you. Even bad people try to make them selves look good even to them selves. If you play KOTOR, you'll know what I mean. Also, why would it be darker to kill a Sith that you've just defeated than to kill countless stormtroopers. Luke seems to have no qualms about killing hundreds of stormtroopers deluded by the Empire, but can't bring him self to kill the emperor, who is his enemy.

I would've taken a pencil, sharpened it, and shoved it in my eye.

Kidding...I agree with most of what you've said. I also think the prophecy is garbage.

I want it to be more consistent. Not really with the OT, but rather with itself. It's very annoying how they did the whole new movie = new designs galore. All the costume styles change, all the ship designs, etc.

It doesn't bond well like the OT, it's like looking at a new sci-fi movie each time instead of a continuation of a story. What really hurt this was the 20+ year jump from TPM to AOTC, Anakin was definitely made way too young. Or they could have done kid in TPM, teen in AOTC and adult in ROTS.

Instead we had to sit through "Yipee" just to have him be an adult in the next movie. Where's the development?...

I think falling into a flaming pit of lava changes people.

Maybe they'll throw Hayden in to achieve full realism?

Erm... they did.

The first post of this thread describes the third movie...

18+ isn't "teen." I mean like 13/14.

Well he bloody well behaved like one.

I really would've done it like Spiral as well. The original trilogy seemed to have a lot more class. I think it was partly because of Alec Guinness and other veteran actors who managed to squeeze the story out of the cheese.

First, Anakin should have been the same age as Luke. The Phantom Menace should have been the beginning of the Clone Wars. Obi-Wan should have met Anakin while he and Qui Gon were on a mission, similar but wait, and Anakin would be their pilot who pulls some serious **** to save them. Obi and Qui would be like "wtf mate" and then put him into Jedi Boot Camp. Darth Maul should have been fleshed out more and Dooku could have been introduced as well.

Ep. 2 - More Clone Wars, Qui should have died in this one because Liam Neeson has class and would have made the movie for me. Obi and Anakin should be partners, not master/padawan, kind of like a Lukey/Han thing. It would make more sense when Obi tells Luke "He was a good friend." So far in both prequels it seems that Obi is the reluctant step father of Qui and non-English-speaking-slave-*****'s ******* kid and there's not really a friendly relationship. Keep Palpy's role the same. Love scene w/o any comments about sand.

Ep. 3 - The Separatists should be kicking *** and Palpy assumes special emergency powers. Anakin is assigned his body guard while Obi is sent off (like seems to happen). Oh, sometime during the movie Anakin and Padme bone and have kids. Anakin should definitely know he has kids. Palpy starts being evil and Anakin confronts him. They fight and Palpy uses the 'Join me' line because Padme and Obi are off on some death mission and the only way to save them is by joining up. Palpy turns Anakin into his ***** because Anakin thinks Padme and the kiddies are dead, so he pretty much hates everyone. Palpy also blames Obi for all of it. Anakin goes to some volcano planet and finds Obi. Anakin unpacks his **** on Obi but Obi busts a cap on him, makin him fall into lava. Palpy saves him. They kill everyone.

THAT'S HOW IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ACCORDING TO ME! but i'm very much content to watch Lucas' interpretation. If I end up not liking it, there's no reason for me to buy the DVD.

I hope Jar Jar plays a bigger role in episode 3. He's the best!

I think one of Jar Jar's misadvetures should lead to blowing a planet up in Ep. III

jedi dont just go kill people willy nilly. when you do, you do what anakin does. the whole point of the emporer wanting luke to kill him was that it would prove that he has hate and that he lets it out and kill people because of it, like his father did before he turned. he was proving that he was a better man than his father, and vader saw that while palpatine was killing luke and realised what he had to do.

I like that, but a few things are inconsistent with the OT.

Ep2 - Obi and Anakin have to be Master/Padawan because obi says "I took it upon myself to train him...etc" in RotJ.

Ep3 - Anakin doesnt know he has kids. The whole Vader/Palpatine bit in esb along with Obi saying how luke and leia were hiddn from vader.

Episode III Scene: Jar Jar blows up a planet.

Somewhere on some backwater planet Jar Jar arrives in his cruiser with his advisors, campaigning for voters by handing out "Vote Gungan, Choose Jar Jar" pins and t-shirts. The natives take kindly to Jar Jar, never having seen a Gungan before. They give JarJar royal treatment by putting him up free of charge in there finest guest suete with a 24/7 minibar on the house. Jar Jar is scheduled to tour the city the next day.

Cut to Anakin and Obi Wan.

Anakin tracks Obiwan to a volcanic planet. Anakin is pissed, and he lets Obi know it, greeting a suprised Obi with a force slap to the face.

Angry dialogue ensues.

Anakin: blahblah blahblahblah!

Obi:Blahblahblaahblahblah, blahblah!

Anankin:Blah blahblah!

etc.

anakin pulls out his saber.
Obi wan does the same.
Both characters stare hard at each other from behind their sabers, the glow of the saber shafts and the burning magma from the nearby crater illuminating their faces.

Cut back to JarJar.

It is 8:00 am, and the planet's representatives are coming in an hour to take Jar Jar on a tour of the planet. Jar Jar, meanwhile is passed out drunk from the free mini bar, tiny bottles of Vodka littering the floor.

Time lapse to 9:00

There is a chime at the chamber door. It rings several times, repeatedly getting louder. Jar Jar wakes with difficulty and answers the door. The represntatives stand in front of Jar Jar, wearing the shirts and pins he handed out in hopes of impressing him. They assume Jar Jar is very tired when he comes to the door. They begin polite conversation and shuttle Jar Jar to the city center. They begin the tour, viewing the many museums with breath taking art and perfomances. Jar Jar, still drunk and experiencing a sever hangover, is very quiet and seemingly uninterested. The represntatives become edgy thinking JarJar bored and unimpressed. They decide to show him something more impressive, like their nuclear array of planetary atom splitter cannons.

Cut back to Anakin and Obiwan.

Anakin is still glaring at Obi, when he suddenly breaks the stillness as he strikes at Obiwan. Every strike, flip, Body slam, and stab is anticipated by Obi Wan and easily blocked and countered. Suddenly Anakin lunges at Obi Wan. Obi effortlessly dodges the attack with a side step and sliding saber parry and kicks Anakin's feet out from under him as he bolts by, missing his target. Anakin bites the volcanic dust, grovels for a second in seeming self turmoil, and suddenly a change comes to his eyes as he seems to give into and emrace a power unseen. He rises to his feet no longer the old Anakin, the whiner, the untrained. But an eerily cool and calm comes over him as he slowly rises to his feet.

Cut back to Jar Jar.

Jar Jar arrives at the atom splitter array and begins his tour. The representatives become more and more nervous by Jar Jar's quiet disinterest. They show him the the massive Plasma coils, The monstrous cannon barrels, the impressive deflector sheild with integral cooling lines, and, most impressively, the Super Plasma Nuclear coils that must be kept cool and clean of all dust by a constant waterfall of coolant and heavy water combined. Suddenly there is a small explosion in conduit sector 5C. The representatives are called towards a work station by a worker to find out what happened and assess the damage. Still drunk as a sailor, Jar Jar does not understand what is happening and, quiet frankly, does not care. While the representatives are absorbed with closing off the conduits, Jar Jar discretely slips another little bottles of Vodka he just found in his pocket. After drinking the bottle, Jar Jar realises he needs to go take his "Brisk morning pee". And absent mindedly sets off looking for the bathroom. He sees the flow of heavy water and coolant and mistakes it in his drunken stupor for a urinal. He drops his fly and lets it drain. Interestingly enough, the acidic quality of gungan urin is something unseen on this planet and is very volatile and heat sensetive when combined with heavy water and coolant. The fluid changes color as it flows towards the coils. Meanwhile the representatives are unable to close of the conduit leak and call for emergency evac. Jar Jar is sucked into an emergency tube directly above him, shot into an emergency pod, the only working emergency pod, and is launched into orbit.

Cut to anakin and obi wan.

Anakin has risen to his feet, turning slowly, a strange dark calm radiates from his face. Obi wan is frightened and clueless as to what is happening.

And then anakin hits him with a force blow to the chest. Having now fully embraced the dark side, Anakin is no longer in inner turmoil. United with himself and the powers of darkness, he suddenly becomes insanely powerful. He pulls out a hidden saber and walks towards Obiwan weilding the dual weaponry. Obi wan rises to his feet and fights for dear life as anakin begins his double saber barrage. Obi wan is recovering from the shock of this new development when he takes a kick to the stomach and a slash that sends him sprawling. He regains his feet and his senses quickly. Obi Wan then proceeds to show his unseen side and opens up a can of whoop-up. Anakin is caught off gaurd by the comeback and one of his sabers is knocked from his hand and Obi Wan grabs it. He then begins his own assult as he pushes anakin closer to the lava pit. Anakin takes a powerful over the head swing. Obiwan grabs hand and saber and twists his arm, hoping to throw him on his back at his feet so he can finish him. Anakin, however, aticipates the move and kicks his feet under him as he lands. Obi lets go of his wrist as Anakin spins and slashes at his ankles. Obiwan back flips, kicking Anakin in the face and land a couple feet away. Seeing anakin on his heels and stunned from the kick, Obi blasts Anikan to the face again with a force push. anakin is blown off his feet as he falls...

return to backwater planet cannon array. The volatile fluid flows towards the edge...

Horror is seen on anakin's face as he slips and falls in slow motion...

cue dramatic, sad music.

(Cannon array) the fluid cascades towards the coils...

as Anakin falls...

Cut to space looking down on backwater planet.

music cuts off suddenly into silence, when suddenly the planet is blown to shreds as an escape pod floats by. As the sound of the explosion resonates, the scene cuts to anakin, who lands in the magma and sizzles like bacon.

Well, thats how it should be.