since seti is now part of the boinc program http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ we should start up a new team through boinc.

tell me if it sounds interesting.

I will start it up when the first person says they would like to join a massassi based seti team.

ps: sorry for the second topic.

Shouldn't we be curing cancer or something instead?

boinc also has a program that looks for cures to protien based desieses(sp?).

you are still helping something get through data faster.

Sorry... my computer's processing power is already spoken for. Right now it's folding proteins, and I'll be switching to the one that's looking for extrasolar planets as soon as it comes out. Only because they let you name the planet if you find it...

Mine is too busy processing porn.

umm... you do realise that most extra-solar planets are found by the big research groups, by the time sdomeone in that program got one, that planet would probably have been found by an organisation with acces to a supercomputer.

the seti @ home community has more processing power than any super computer available.

I was talking about the extra-solar planet thing.

most of the people searching for them have a supercomputer with the ability to see if the stars "wobble". (i.e. have a non-stellar companion)

And MB was saying that Seti@Home can do that quite easily, because the amount of processing power available to Seti far exceeds the super computers scientists have available to them on a daily basis.

As of 2004, SETI@Home provided 60 teraflops of power, as compared to the fastest available supercomputer, the Blue Gene/L, at 70.45 teraflops. HOWEVER, no scientist in the world would ever be able to afford more than maybe 2/3 days worth of computing on that computer. SETI has this 60 teraflop power at their disposal all day, every day. And every day, it grows larger, and faster, as computers progress and become more popular.

As for a Massassi SETI team, there already is/was one, but no one bothered to join.

Perhaps I will think about it.......my RAM and procssor will get back to you

yes, but looking for extra-solar planets is not a process that requires thousands of computers crunching data. It would only be nessesary if there were terrabytes of unsearched data and even then it would only take a few weeks to be looked through in a super computer. much cheaper than setting up a distributed computing program that only has data that would last a month at most.

http://setiathome2.ssl.berkeley.edu/fcgi-bin/fcgi?email=Mort-Hog%40post.com&cmd=user_stats_new

My proudest moment:

I Fold@Home because it seems more useful.

A few WEEKS? It takes forever for SETI to analyze one 35GB tape of data, much less 1000GB of data.

And yes, it is quite possible to obtain that much data in one single day. Hell, if it wasn't for real-time DSP processors at the Arecibo radio telescope, SETI would be forced to process much, MUCH more data. Those DSP processors filter out obviously junk signals, producing approximately 35GB of actual "possible" data.

So many people have planets named after them.

If I got a planet I'd call it the ******* of the Universe.

yes, but that is seti.

it would not take long to see if a star had extra solar planets. in fact, the longest part would be transferring the pictures across and implementing the program as realy the best method we have for finding them is observeing the effect that the planet orbiting its star has on our view of the star. If you want to know more, google "method for finding extra-solar planets" or something along those lines.

omq seti@massassi!

Since you're obviously a genius and know everything, alpha, why don't you tell the SETI crew how it's really done?

for the last bloody time, I was refering to the supposed if you find a planet, you name it program.

extra-solar planet != extra terestrial intelligence.

we have already found many extra solar planets. all of them were found by groups using the supercomputer of the laboriory where they got their data.

You know this for a fact? Then why are there distributed processing programs for this exact thing?

Actually, many of them were found by SETI people...thus the appeal of letting you name planets you find.

But this went over your head. Like most everything, it seems.

Who gave you all permission to use my school's resources anyway? :p

Sorry, but my processing power as already being used by grid.org

tell me how exactly something that scans radio waves can sense the presence of a planet. all of the extra solar planets I have heard of were by groups with access to large optical telescopse and nasa people using the hubble telescope. Also, since all of the name a star after yourself things are just a scam, there is very little possiblitity that the internation astronomical organisation (or whatever it is called) would let them name a planet. In fact, only the planets that are considered to be a major find or are unique in some way get named, all the others get the normal designation of the starname plus a letter corrisponding to its place in its solar system.

I checked on the JPL website, the only ways of detecting extra-solar planets involve optical telescopes (fancy ones connected to computers).

It either studies how the planet moves its parent star via the doppler effect, how the star is moving in comparison to two othe stars that are much further away so they act as stationary points.

Another method involves coplex filters that could allow us to see the light reflected off a planet, or using a physical filter to block out the light of the star, or dectecting slight drops in the magnitude of the star as it passes between us and the star.

You might say that arcebo could dectect some the difference using radio waves, but it might have inaccuracies due to our atmosphere and also, some of those are the types of waves that are either canceled by arceibo or are not in the spectrum range that is being studied. The only way arceibo could discover a planet would be if it recieved signals from a satellite that is designed to studie stars for the possibilities of extra-solar planets.

Also, to DJ-Yoshi, I have found out it is the IAU so dont try and discred me because I made one arbitrary mistake.

If you dont believe me, go here.

http://planetquest.jpl.nasa.gov/news/excitingStep.html

look at the find out more section about how to find a planet.
dont complain that it has kiddy like graphics, the information is still true.

Whoa, guys, I hardly meant for my comment to incite a flamewar. I think we need to take it down a notch or two in here.

Anyways, this is the distributed computing thing I was talking about. (I was kidding about the "letting you name the planet" part, which is too bad because I have some great names for planets: "Endor", "LV-426", "Bob", "Abydos", etc.)

A cookie to the first person to name all the planet name references I just used. (The first one, at least, should be easy)

return of the jedi, alien series, no idea, stargate.

also, to yoshi, this is not using seti data but data from an orbital satellite.

Titan A. E.

Don't ask how I know. >.<

How heavy are these kinds of projects on your upload? I'm seriously considering folding some proteins myself, but I have a pretty low bandwidth upload cap.

SETI's work units are 0.35MB in size, and your computer finishes a work unit in between 6-10 hours on average. So about a meg a day, which equals to about 30MB a month. Not bad at all. They want it small, so even 56K users can participate.

I would join, but my processor is already spoken for,Folding proteins on the
SharkyForums team

Massassi already has a seti@home team...

http://setiathome2.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/team/team_102552.html

or the same team on this "newer" bonic version...

http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/team_display.php?teamid=51291

not many of us in there mind....and I seem to be the only active one....

Hey you guys lets set up a massassi waste of time!!

yeah! like a forum !!

And then we'll get a chat room set up for the more active members...

And then we'll set up a chat statistics page to see who had the least amount of life that week!

you mean the most amount of life as it means they are doing somthing other than using their computer.

Yes, that would be what I meant, thanks for clearing that up.

mine finish in around 3.5 hours so :p

I have a 2.66 GHz processor.

On Average

Do you selectively read or something?

It's alpha. That's a given.