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VLC media player at risk?
2005-04-10, 7:52 PM #1
http://www.videolan.org/patents.html

This could be bad.... This is another attempt to stifle innovation. Soon, it may be that the only place to download binaries will be from servers in Russia.

It won't affect me though, at least for the time being. Patent infringement or no patent infringement, I have the VLC binaries saved on cd and I wil keep using it indefinitely. Anything is better than the bloated piece of s*** that Windows Media Player has become.
2005-04-10, 7:54 PM #2
VLC player is a great piece of software; I know I'm going to keep using it.
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2005-04-10, 7:57 PM #3
I always found VLC to be quite unstable.
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2005-04-10, 7:59 PM #4
Quote:
Originally posted by DeTRiTiC-iQ
I always found VLC to be quite unstable.


it's worked great for me, to the point where I consider it to be a STAPLE component of any windows install, at the same level as Firefox and Thunderbird. .


It plays anything I throw at it, and it is a quite good software dvd player, too. (Especially that other software DVD players are bloated and are not free)

The REALLY bad part is that other free players like xine are at risk too.
2005-04-10, 8:08 PM #5
Quote:
Originally posted by DeTRiTiC-iQ
I always found VLC to be quite unstable.

Only on Windows. Try it out on *nix sometime. Or better yet, try Xine or mplayer.
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2005-04-10, 8:10 PM #6
I suppose there's still Irfanview.

Quote:
Originally posted by gbk
Only on Windows. Try it out on *nix sometime. Or better yet, try Xine or mplayer.


Never, ever ran into a problem on XP.
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2005-04-10, 9:05 PM #7
It's my player of choice.
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2005-04-10, 9:57 PM #8
It's my favorite so far, mostly because of the graphic EQ. Which I still can't get to turn on by default and sort of had to hack at it to get it to store my own values.
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2005-04-14, 9:21 AM #9
I had mentioned this quite a while ago, when mplayer updated their website with similar news. It's quite sad, and I'll be very angry if this goes through.

Although mplayer kicks the pants off VLC, all said media players are in the same boat. If mplayer and VLC get shot down, us Linux users will be trapped with bloaty unstable software (Such as Xine or whatever those Gnome/KDE proggies are called). And that will be a sad thing, as Linux becomes reduced to the same flaming pile of crap that windows has become in terms of codec hell.
2005-04-14, 9:24 AM #10
I prefer MPlayerC, but unfortunately it doesn't seem to recognize ogg codecs anymore. Grr.
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2005-04-14, 11:49 AM #11
Quote:
Originally posted by FastGamerr
I prefer MPlayerC, but unfortunately it doesn't seem to recognize ogg codecs anymore. Grr.


Yes it does. Go get the ogg codec and install it.
2005-04-14, 11:52 AM #12
Yes, I've had fun installing the codecs over and over again to get them work last few months.
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2005-04-14, 11:56 AM #13
Quote:
Originally posted by FastGamerr
Yes, I've had fun installing the codecs over and over again to get them work last few months.


Well I just installed it on my laptop 3 days ago, and it works fine. It's gotta be your end. What error do you get?
2005-04-14, 12:04 PM #14
Quote:
Stream 0

Media Type 0:
--------------------------
AM_MEDIA_TYPE:
majortype: MEDIATYPE_Audio {73647561-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
subtype: Unknown GUID Name {8D2FD10B-5841-4A6B-8905-588FEC1ADED9}
formattype: Unknown GUID Name {B36E107F-A938-4387-93C7-55E966757473}
bFixedSizeSamples: 1
bTemporalCompression: 0
lSampleSize: 8192
cbFormat: 4996


Media Type 1:
--------------------------
AM_MEDIA_TYPE:
majortype: MEDIATYPE_Audio {73647561-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
subtype: Unknown GUID Name {CDDCA2D5-6D75-4F98-840E-737BEDD5C63B}
formattype: Unknown GUID Name {6BDDFA7E-9F22-46A9-AB5E-884EFF294D9F}
bFixedSizeSamples: 1
bTemporalCompression: 0
lSampleSize: 8192
cbFormat: 24
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2005-04-14, 12:08 PM #15
WINAMP FOREVA
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2005-04-14, 12:13 PM #16
Quote:
Originally posted by 7
WINAMP FOREVA

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2005-04-14, 12:14 PM #17
That's an odd error. Does that happen with all OGG files, or only one or two specifically? If it only happens on some, I propose that the files were either incorrectly compressed in ogg, or not ogg at all.

If you are able to tell me the link of the file, I can investigate further.
2005-04-14, 12:15 PM #18
Quote:
Originally posted by 7
WINAMP FOREVA


You missed the entire point. Winamp relies on codecs already installed on the system, making it just as poor of a player as WMP.
2005-04-14, 12:23 PM #19
Quote:
Originally posted by Cool Matty
You missed the entire point. Winamp relies on codecs already installed on the system, making it just as poor of a player as WMP.

No, you can use plugins with Winamp to read file formats for which you don't have a codec installed.
2005-04-14, 1:01 PM #20
Quote:
Originally posted by Cool Matty
You missed the entire point. Winamp relies on codecs already installed on the system, making it just as poor of a player as WMP.


No. Not to mention, it has a better layout, uses less resources, and is more intuitive than WMP
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2005-04-14, 1:03 PM #21
But can winamp run a 720x480 divx avi on a k6-2 500MHz?

I thought not.

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2005-04-14, 1:08 PM #22
Quote:
Originally posted by Dj Yoshi
No. Not to mention, it has a better layout, uses less resources, and is more intuitive than WMP


A. They both use skins, so layout is null.
B. WMP is currently using about 8mb, as compared to winamp's 17MB.
C. Intuitive? I dunno. Winamp simply does a lot less, making for a simpler interface.
2005-04-14, 1:15 PM #23
My winamp uses 12mb, actually.
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2005-04-14, 1:20 PM #24
7 508k on my machine, with a song playing.
2005-04-14, 1:26 PM #25
5280K for mine with a song going. <3 Winamp.

I'm downloading this vlc thing while i can: I've never heard of it, so I'll be giving it a try later.
2005-04-14, 2:10 PM #26
VLC's worked pretty stably on my computer for the past year or so. The only really annoying thing is it sometimes crashes when displaying subtitles in specific file formats of movies- but very rarely.
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2005-04-14, 2:11 PM #27
Foobar2000 > Winamp. A true audiophile's music player. It can just do so much more.
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2005-04-14, 6:30 PM #28
Im watching a video in Xine right now. Its a 400mb Divx file. Xine is only using 250k of ram and about ~5% Cpu (running fullscreen, even).

Xine > * (except mplayer, sometimes)
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2005-04-14, 6:36 PM #29
Yes, kernel streaming in Foobar is amazing.
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2005-04-14, 6:42 PM #30
Quote:
Originally posted by Emon
Foobar2000 > Winamp. A true audiophile's music player. It can just do so much more.

Kernel streaming doesn't make anything sound better. Just louder, since you're bypassing the mixer volume control.
2005-04-14, 7:11 PM #31
I sure noticed a difference with my KS'd Foobar compared to winamp 5.something
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2005-04-14, 7:25 PM #32
I never claimed kernel streaming made anything sound better. It doesn't. Infact, I don't even use it, I use DirectSound 2.0. By an audiophile's player I meant all the tons of other features audiophiles like. I've barely scratched the surface and already found stuff I could never do in Winamp.
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2005-04-14, 7:35 PM #33
Sorry, it's just that I've had some of my friends tell me that Foobar was better because of kernel streaming. I spend my time mixing in Sonar with kernel streaming, and it sound the same, just louder. If you set the Windows mixer levels all to their max's and set the EQ flat, it sounds the same.
2005-04-14, 7:49 PM #34
Foobar has been more stable for me than Winamp. Much, plus it's just more customizable

However, not quite as pretty out of the exe.
2005-04-15, 4:42 AM #35
I use foobar when matlab is doing dirty things to my computer, Geoff seems much less stressed with foobar. And its so well put together.

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