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2004-05-07, 7:34 AM #1
http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2004/05/07/world/iraq_rums_abuse040507

I find this quite sad.

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2004-05-07, 7:45 AM #2
It happens. the soldiers that did this were *******s, and i'm glad to see that Rumsfeld is man enough to take the heat for it.

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2004-05-07, 8:04 AM #3
Surprising that anyone in his position would step up like that. Wow.


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2004-05-07, 9:32 AM #4
Heh, I like the hecklers shouting "Fire Rumsfield!" as if he had anything to do with the abuse. Sure, he may have tried to stifle media coverage of it, but who wouldnt? It's awful publicity for a fairly internationally unpopular war. Like Bush and Rumsfield have said, the soldiers have let down their country and have given the opponents of the Coalition in Iraq more reason to hate what we're doing over there.

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2004-05-07, 11:41 AM #5
I wouldn't. There are plenty of people, myself for instance, who are quite mad over the fact that they covered it up. The awful publicity would probably not have been as bad is it is right now if they had just come foreth with it.

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2004-05-07, 4:51 PM #6
I hope the people that did the abuse to the prisoners get well acquainted with a cell mate named Bubba.

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2004-05-07, 4:56 PM #7
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Kieran Horn:
I hope the people that did the abuse to the prisoners get well acquainted with a cell mate named Bubba.

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Which, ironically enough, is the problem. There is this little thinga-mabob called human rights. Ever heard of it?

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2004-05-07, 4:59 PM #8
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Darth Evad:
Surprising that anyone in his position would step up like that. Wow.


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Oh, yes. Simply amazing that there are actually people left in this world with some moral. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/rolleyes.gif]

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2004-05-07, 4:59 PM #9
They will get court marshalled, dishonorably discharged, and then most likely incarcerated for a long time. What they did turned a bad public relations situation into a horrible one, and abused human beings to boot. They will be suitable punished. And Rumsfeld will not go easy on them, i'm sure, after he had to do all this.

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2004-05-07, 5:00 PM #10
The thing is, politions are not known for thier moral fiber.

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The Never Ending Story Squared[/i]
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2004-05-07, 5:25 PM #11
Rumsfeld has always had the appearence of a weasle to me. Consequently, no matter how hard I try, I can never seem to trust a damn thing he says.

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2004-05-07, 5:40 PM #12
This abuse stuff is obviously going to affect the average Iraqi civillian's view on Americans in a negative way. Just what we need.
2004-05-08, 4:56 AM #13
Not even just politicians. Most people in a position like his, the top, would not take the blame for someone at the bottom. When in fact, management is to blame for almost all problems within an organization, political (public) or private.

I'm just surprised that anyone in his position and with his experience would make such a statement.
It's good to see.

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