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Let the console wars begin..
2005-06-11, 9:55 AM #1
With the first remarks, from a Microsoft representative..:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/06/10/news_6127350.html

Quote:
In an interview with Web site bit-tech.net, ATI Developer Relations Manager Richard Huddy waxed technical about Microsoft's upcoming Xbox 360 and ATI's role in the machine. The 360 will be using ATI's Xenos graphics processor, and Huddy's job is to chat with potential developers and help them develop the tools that best use Xenos' capabilities.


With regards to the console's architecture, Huddy says, "It's way better than I would have expected at this point in the history of 3D graphics." He sees the unified pipeline, rather than segregated pixel and vertex engines, giving the 360 a huge a huge advantage in accessible processing power.

Huddy goes on to shed some light on backwards compatibility. Each Xbox game is written with specific Xbox hardware in mind, and the 360's move to PowerPCs and ATI graphics doesn't jibe with the Xbox's Intel chips and Nvidia graphics processors. To add to the difficulty, the 360 wasn't designed for backward-compatibility early on in development.

To solve this, Microsoft has implemented the use of emulator programs that will allow the Xbox 360 to play Xbox games. According to Huddy, "emulating the CPU isn't really a difficult task. ...the real bottlenecks in the emulation are GPU calls--calls made specifically by games to the Nvidia hardware in a certain way. General GPU instructions are easy to convert--an instruction to draw a triangle in a certain way will be pretty generic. However, it’s the odd cases, the proprietary routines, that will cause hassle.” Once complete, the Xbox emulators could come pre-loaded on the unit's hard drive or will be downloadable via Xbox Live.

Huddy also dispels the notion of the PlayStation 3's higher graphics clock speed (550MHz versus the 360's 500MHz) means that Sony's console will outperform the Xbox 360. He believes that its ATI's unified pipeline that will make the biggest difference between the Xbox 360 and PS3. ATI archrival Nvidia, who is providing the RSX graphics processor for the PS3, has chosen not to go the route of a unified pipeline.

"This time around, [Nvidia doesn’t] have the architecture and we do, so they have to knock it and say it isn’t worthwhile. But in the future, they’ll market themselves out of this corner, claiming that they’ve cracked how to do it best. But RSX isn’t unified, and this is why I think PS3 will almost certainly be slower and less powerful."
2005-06-11, 6:11 PM #2
Interesting. I can't wait to see how this generation of consoles compete against each other, but Sony will probably win again. I also predict things aren't going to get much easier for Nintendo... I wouldn't be surprised if this is Nintendo's final home console.
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2005-06-11, 6:35 PM #3
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2005-06-11, 7:30 PM #4
the Phantom is obviously going to win
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2005-06-11, 7:34 PM #5
PS3.

Sexy. Specs. Everything.
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2005-06-11, 9:27 PM #6
How many of these threads are we going to have?
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2005-06-11, 9:56 PM #7
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Originally posted by drizzt2k2
PS3.

Sexy. Specs. Everything.


... It looks like a PRINTER. I have NEVER seen a sexy printer. And the controller, if that IS the controller, looks really, really weird.

I like the 360. =P
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2005-06-11, 10:22 PM #8
Sega Genesis!

er...

>.>

Good to see consoles are constantly evolving... just hope game quality isn't inversely proportional to console power :\

And speaking of console wars... :o
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2005-06-12, 6:59 AM #9
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Originally posted by Whelly
Interesting. I can't wait to see how this generation of consoles compete against each other, but Sony will probably win again. I also predict things aren't going to get much easier for Nintendo... I wouldn't be surprised if this is Nintendo's final home console.


Nintendo will have to do something radical this time around to survive. Silly Nintendo. Always trying to make the best game console instead of DVD or Media Player.

Sony may have won in terms of sales but I think Nintendo and XBox fans really won. They're certainly superior consoles and the competition drove their prices down.
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2005-06-12, 7:09 AM #10
PS3, but I will not buy any of those consoles.

I prefer PC's.
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